What you are saying is that Bowley's watch must be correct be cause it fits your timeline. That line of argument says more about your ego than it does about the accuracy of Bowley's watch. Sniping aside, you're really down to arguing that Bowley's watch must be correct because it fits your timeline ...after claiming that the timeline must be correct (in part) because it fits the time supplied by Bowley's watch. That's a blatant circular argument, and as such lacks any validity.
Your backup argument is that Bowley's watch must be correct because he says he picked up his daughter "at about 12:55 pm." This line of thinking makes no sense from the get go. If nothing else, how would Bowley know what the time time was at 12:55? Probably, he looked at his watch. But if the watch was off n minutes when it read "1:10" then it was also n minutes off at "12:55."
So how accurate was Bowley's watch?
The rest of your 'corroboration' is the same tangled heap of cherry-picking and unwarranted assumptions that I've come to associate with the use of the word "corroborate."
When you actually look at the data in the transcripts and the recordings themselves, you'll find that that Bowles and Cason were correct when they said that the DPD kept the dispatcher clocks within a minute of each other. Dan and I have already demonstrated that using the simulcast and semi-simulcast traffic just after the shooting demonstrate that the DPD clocks were within a minute of each other, just as Bowles said. We've also pointed out that the McIntyre photo, Greer's testimony, Sorrel's testimony, and Power's affidavit agree that the assassination happened at 12:30, which also agrees with the traffic on channel two. The data is there. You can't blow off the data because you think Bowles said something years after the fact. At some point, you have to reconcile what's in the DPD recordings with the rest of your timeline, if you want to be taken seriously. And you you need to account for the Dudley Hughes data as well.
What you are saying is that Bowley's watch must be correct be cause it fits your timeline. That line of argument says more about your ego than it does about the accuracy of Bowley's watch. No, that's not what I am saying at all. It's a strawman you have made up. You've clearly not read the time line because if you had you would have understood there was a sequence of events in which each individual has a particular place irrespective of a clock being right or wrong. However, when you place an individual like Bowley in his correct place in the sequence of events and it turns out his watch must have been (nearly) correct that's no more than a bonus.
Markham came first, because she arrived just prior to the shooting,
Benavides is second as he got out of the car and tried to get on to the police radio within roughly 40 seconds after the shooting
Bowley is next as he took the radio from Benavides and made his 46 seconds call
And Callaway came after that. We know that Callaway was less than a block away (which would take about 2 minutes to walk)
He said he heard the shots and then saw a man with a revolver coming towards him. After his encounter with that man, he ran towards 10th street. As it would not have taken him more than 3 minutes, we can conclude that Bowley must have arrived at the scene within approx 90 to 120 seconds after the shooting, in order to make his 46 seconds long radio call before Callaway got there. The ambulance driver told the HSCA investigators that it took less than four minutes between receiving the call and Tippit being declared DOA at Methodist Hospital and we know that Callaway and Bowley both helped to load Tippit into the ambulance. And, finally, officer Croy heard Bowley's call (he was in his car at Zang/Colorado) and drove to 10th street. That drive only took 2 minutes and when he arrived he saw two civilians (Callaway and Bowley) load Tippit in the car.
This sequence of events is undisputed and proven by the testimony of the witnesses themselves. When you attach the time estimates of Markham and Bowley to it, as well as DPD officers Poe and Jez (squad car 105) report which says they heard Bowley's call at around 1:10 PM you have solid corroboration of the times.
To prove my time line wrong, all you need to do is try to remove or change one part of the time line and see what happens to the rest. It can not be done.
Sniping aside, you're really down to arguing that Bowley's watch must be correct because it fits your timeline ...after claiming that the timeline must be correct (in part) because it fits the time supplied by Bowley's watch. That's a blatant circular argument, and as such lacks any validity.No that's not the argument. That's again your strawman. You clearly haven't studied the time line or otherwise you wouldn't say something this stupid.
Your backup argument is that Bowley's watch must be correct because he says he picked up his daughter "at about 12:55 pm." This line of thinking makes no sense from the get go. If nothing else, how would Bowley know what the time time was at 12:55? Probably, he looked at his watch. But if the watch was off n minutes when it read "1:10" then it was also n minutes off at "12:55." Another misrepresentation of what I am actually saying. When you have to use misrepresentations to dismiss something you have already lost the argument. Your mispresentation is either confirmation of the fact that you haven't understood the time line or you just don't care.
But I'll play your little game. Yes, if Bowley's watch was off a number of minutes when it read 1:10 (to fit him into the official DPD time line, it would have to be off by some 7 minutes) it was indeed also off at 12:55. But just how likely is that? Have you ever picked up a 12 year old from school? Do you really think a parent can arrive 7 minutes late at school to pick up a teenager and not hear about it? Really?
So how accurate was Bowley's watch?The other available evidence shows that Bowley's watch was pretty accurate. It's actually somewhat pathetic for you to concentrate solely on Bowley's watch. You clearly seem to think that's the weakest link in the entire time line. So, to show the error of your ways; forget about Bowley's watch and ignore he said he looked at it and it said 1:10. Now just look at the remainder of the time line and try to work out at roughly what time Bowley must have arrived at the scene, for DPD officers Poe and Jez (squad car 105) to hear his radio call at approximently 1:10?
Or, let me guess... Poe and Jez used a clock that was also off......
The rest of your 'corroboration' is the same tangled heap of cherry-picking and unwarranted assumptions that I've come to associate with the use of the word "corroborate."Yeah right.... OK then, I'll make you a deal. You tell me which parts are cherry picked and/or unwarranted assumptions and we'll take it from there. Go on then......
When you actually look at the data in the transcripts and the recordings themselves, you'll find that that Bowles and Cason were correct when they said that the DPD kept the dispatcher clocks within a minute of each other. Dan and I have already demonstrated that using the simulcast and semi-simulcast traffic just after the shooting demonstrate that the DPD clocks were within a minute of each other, just as Bowles said. We've also pointed out that the McIntyre photo, Greer's testimony, Sorrel's testimony, and Power's affidavit agree that the assassination happened at 12:30, which also agrees with the traffic on channel two. The data is there. You can't blow off the data because you think Bowles said something years after the fact. Nobody is blowing off any data because of what Bowles said. You are misrepresenting what Bowles actually told the HSCA. He did say that dispatcher clocks were normally kept within a minute of each other, but you left out that he also said it didn't always happen when radio traffic was busy, as it obviously was after Kennedy was shot. What you also left out is that Bowles said that the dispatcher's clocks did not line up with the master clock as their main purpose was to document a sequence of events rather than provide an exact time. And you also left out that Bowles said that the master clock gave "official" time which was not the same as real time.
At some point, you have to reconcile what's in the DPD recordings with the rest of your timeline, if you want to be taken seriously. And you you need to account for the Dudley Hughes data as well. No, you need to reconcile the DPD recordings with the actual sequence of events, and when you do you will find that the DPD recordings simply do not match those events.
Here's an example. Callaway was only less than a block away from the scene. It took him no more than 3 minutes to get to 10th street. When he arrived there, Bowley was already there and had already made his 46 seconds long call. According to Bill Brown the actual DPD recording (he heard at Dale Myers home) has Benavides tapping the mic for roughly two minutes before Bowley took it over, which simply does not match with Callaway being there within 3 minutes after the shots. Even less so when you add on the 40 seconds Benavides waited in his truck until the killer was out of sight.
The WC had Tippit being shot at 1:16, which in turn would mean that (if the 40 seconds waiting and 2 minutes mic tapping for Benavides is correct) Bowley did not arrive at the scene until 1:18 or 1:19 (which would mean his watch was 8 to 9 minutes off), which is impossible as the transcripts have Bowley placing his call at 1:17 and Callaway placing his call at 1:19. It just doesn't add up.
And btw there is no such thing as Dudley Hughes data. Based on an article written by Nash in 1964, LNs have claimed that a time stamp card showed the call for an ambulance came in at 1:18. The problem with that is that no such card exists and nobody has ever been able to produce it. Secondly, and equally important, even if there was such a card, there is no guarantee that the clock used by the dispatcher of the funeral house was accurate.
Now let me bounce the ball back to you. If you want to be taken seriously you need to address the entire time line and not just parts where you think you can score.
