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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2021, 05:43:43 AM »
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I think he was shot twice from the back. I think the evidence is misleading that he was shot from the front. In the Zapruder film the exit wound is at the front of Kennedys head - this is strong evidence that he was shot from the back and an exit wound blasted out the top front of Kennedys head.

I see. So you are a conspiracy theorist in that you believe everyone I cited in my first post conspired to say that JFK was shot from the front.

And you think all the following people were part of the conspiracy to say he was shot from the front.

From my book:

Concerning President Kennedy’s throat wound, Parkland Hospital doctors were adamant that it was a wound of entry. Dr. Paul Peters testified to the Warren Commission, “We saw the wound of entry in the throat.”

Dr. Robert McClelland testified, “The wound in the neck, the anterior part of the neck, was an entrance wound.”

Dr. Charles Carrico, who used a “laryngoscope” to look down into President Kennedy’s throat, told the House Select Committee on Assassinations, “There was some injury to the trachea behind it,” and the bullet “must have been going front to back.”

Dr. Marion Jenkins wrote up a report at 4:30 p.m. on November 22 stating that Doctors Baxter, Perry, and McClelland “began a tracheotomy and started the insertion of a right chest tube” because President Kennedy had sustained “obvious tracheal and chest damage.”

Additionally, Dr. Malcolm Perry, who performed the tracheotomy, testified to the Assassination Records Review Board in 1998 that the neck wound “looked like an entrance wound and the bullet appeared to be coming at him,” and thirty-five years earlier, at a press conference on the day of the assassination, Dr. Perry stated, “There was an entrance wound in the neck,” and Perry stated that the bullet “appeared to be coming at him.”

Contrary to the autopsy report claiming that a bullet struck JFK in the back of the neck, eyewitnesses clearly saw the bullet strike President Kennedy considerably farther down on his back.

Secret Service Special Agent Clint Hill, who had been summoned to the morgue to witness “the damage of the gunshot wounds,” wrote in his report that he “observed a wound about six inches down from the neckline on the back just to the right of the spinal column.”

Hill told the Warren Commission the same thing, testifying, “I saw an opening in the back, about six inches below the neckline to the right-hand side of the spinal column.”

Even the lead pathologist, James Humes, first acknowledged that the wound was “below the shoulders.” FBI Agents Sibert and O’Neill wrote in their report that during the autopsy, Dr. Humes “located an opening which appeared to be a bullet hole, which was below the shoulders.” Humes probed the wound with his finger, and “it was determined that the trajectory of the missile entering at this point had entered at a downward position of 45 to 60 degrees.”

And one of the Secret Service Agents in the Presidential follow-up car, Special Agent Glen Bennett, wrote in his report on November 22 that after the first shot, he heard another shot and “saw the shot hit the President about four inches down from the right shoulder.”  Bennett wrote four inches down from the “shoulder,” not four inches down from the neck.

When Humes, the lead pathologist, testified to the Warren Commission, he totally contradicted what he and the FBI Agents saw during the autopsy. Humes claimed the wound in the front of the neck is “physically lower” than an alleged “point of entrance” in the back of the neck. The autopsy report that Humes signed similarly states that a bullet “traversed the soft tissues . . . of the neck . . . and made its exit through the anterior surface [front] of the neck.”

Originally, after lead pathologist James J. Humes acknowledged there was a back wound “below the shoulders,” the throat wound was being explained away as an exit wound for a bullet “fragment” that came from an alleged rear headshot.

In the Warren Commission’s Executive Session on January 27, 1964, the Commission’s General Counsel, Lee Rankin, stated, “We have an explanation there in the autopsy that probably a fragment came out the front of the neck.”

Rankin continued, “It seems quite apparent now, since we have the picture of where the bullet entered in the back, that the bullet entered below the shoulder blade to the right of the backbone, which is below the place where the picture shows the bullet came out in the neckband of the shirt in front.”

Rankin repeated that according to the autopsy report, there were “bullet fragments” from an alleged rear headshot, one of which “came out in part through the neck.”

Rankin, who had “the picture of where the bullet entered in the back,” could clearly see that President Kennedy’s back wound was “below the shoulder blade,” and he could see that the back wound was below President Kennedy’s throat wound.

The public never saw the autopsy report on which Rankin based his statements, and the CIA saw to it that this Warren Commission Executive Session would remain classified for quite some time. The National Archives sent a letter to the CIA in 1974 concerning the transcript of the “executive session of January 27, 1964,” stating, “The Central Intelligence Agency requested us to withhold this transcript from research in a letter of December 22, 1972.”

The media were also touting the story that a bullet fragment caused the throat wound. A Washington Post story on December 18, 1963, twenty-six days after the assassination, stated that the “as yet unofficial report of pathologists” says a bullet “fragment” from an alleged rear head shot had been “deflected” and had “passed out the front of the throat.”

Since the official story was that he had been shot from behind, and everyone could see the back wound was lower down on the back, the only possible way to explain away President Kennedy’s throat wound without acknowledging that it was an entrance wound was to claim that it was an exit wound for a bullet fragment from an alleged rear head shot.

The autopsy report would not be released to the public as a Warren Commission exhibit until ten months after the assassination, by which time people would accept the new version of a bullet striking President Kennedy in the back of the neck. The throat wound would then be easily explained away as an exit wound, and the fragment story would be ancient history.

The “Secret Service” finally gave an autopsy report to the FBI on December 23, 1963,  more than a month after the assassination, and on the same day, the “Secret Service” gave an entirely different autopsy report to the Warren Commission. Lee Rankin was apparently looking at this other version of the autopsy report during the Warren Commission’s Executive Session in January when he said it had “an explanation” that “probably a fragment came out the front of the neck.”

The autopsy report that was given to the FBI eventually became the “official” autopsy report. It states that a bullet entered “above the scapula”  (otherwise known as the shoulder blade), which directly contradicts the autopsy report stating that a bullet “entered below the shoulder blade.”

To repeat, the CIA killed President Kennedy as part of their effort to control the government. It’s all in my book. Click the link.

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2021, 05:43:43 AM »


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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2021, 11:19:34 PM »
I think he was shot twice from the back. I think the evidence is misleading that he was shot from the front. In the Zapruder film the exit wound is at the front of Kennedys head - this is strong evidence that he was shot from the back and an exit wound blasted out the top front of Kennedys head.

Do you believe everyone I cited in my first post conspired to say that JFK was shot from the front?

Do you believe they all lied when they said the back of his head was blown off?

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2021, 01:27:10 AM »
And one of the Secret Service Agents in the Presidential follow-up car, Special Agent Glen Bennett, wrote in his report on November 22 that after the first shot, he heard another shot and “saw the shot hit the President about four inches down from the right shoulder.”  Bennett wrote four inches down from the “shoulder,” not four inches down from the neck.



Maybe Bennett saw a big drop of blood cascade out or blood saturating the jacket below the entry hole. Really hard to see the jacket hole and that area was in shadow when Bennett saw it.

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When Humes, the lead pathologist, testified to the Warren Commission, he totally contradicted what he and the FBI Agents saw during the autopsy. Humes claimed the wound in the front of the neck is “physically lower” than an alleged “point of entrance” in the back of the neck. The autopsy report that Humes signed similarly states that a bullet “traversed the soft tissues . . . of the neck . . . and made its exit through the anterior surface [front] of the neck.”

Originally, after lead pathologist James J. Humes acknowledged there was a back wound “below the shoulders,” the throat wound was being explained away as an exit wound for a bullet “fragment” that came from an alleged rear headshot.

It's not fair that people reading your posts and blowing their good money away on your book might think you know what you're talking about.

The autopsy report said the entry wound was above the scalpula.

   "Situated on the upper right posterior thorax just above the upper
     border of the scapula there is a 7 x 4 millimeter oval wound. This
     wound is measured to be 14 cm. from the tip of the right acromion
     process and 14 cm. below the tip of the right mastoid process."



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In the Warren Commission’s Executive Session on January 27, 1964, the Commission’s General Counsel, Lee Rankin, stated, “We have an explanation there in the autopsy that probably a fragment came out the front of the neck.”

Rankin continued, “It seems quite apparent now, since we have the picture of where the bullet entered in the back, that the bullet entered below the shoulder blade to the right of the backbone, which is below the place where the picture shows the bullet came out in the neckband of the shirt in front.”

"Below the shoulder blade" -- or scapula? That's pretty low. Maybe Rankin meant the shoulder crest. Or the stenographer got it wrong.

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Rankin repeated that according to the autopsy report, there were “bullet fragments” from an alleged rear headshot, one of which “came out in part through the neck.”

Rankin, who had “the picture of where the bullet entered in the back,” could clearly see that President Kennedy’s back wound was “below the shoulder blade,” and he could see that the back wound was below President Kennedy’s throat wound.

Rankin is referring to a very-low back wound (probably an error in phrase) and things not in the autopsy report signed before Rankin's comments.

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The public never saw the autopsy report on which Rankin based his statements,

Oh I see. the Autopsy Report in the Warren Report is a phoney. ::)

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and the CIA saw to it that this Warren Commission Executive Session would remain classified for quite some time. The National Archives sent a letter to the CIA in 1974 concerning the transcript of the “executive session of January 27, 1964,” stating, “The Central Intelligence Agency requested us to withhold this transcript from research in a letter of December 22, 1972.”

Rankin and others on the Commission staff didn't notice the Autopsy Report in the WCR was phoney?

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The media were also touting the story that a bullet fragment caused the throat wound. A Washington Post story on December 18, 1963, twenty-six days after the assassination, stated that the “as yet unofficial report of pathologists” says a bullet “fragment” from an alleged rear head shot had been “deflected” and had “passed out the front of the throat.”

Since the official story was that he had been shot from behind, and everyone could see the back wound was lower down on the back, the only possible way to explain away President Kennedy’s throat wound without acknowledging that it was an entrance wound was to claim that it was an exit wound for a bullet fragment from an alleged rear head shot.

The autopsy report would not be released to the public as a Warren Commission exhibit until ten months after the assassination, by which time people would accept the new version of a bullet striking President Kennedy in the back of the neck. The throat wound would then be easily explained away as an exit wound, and the fragment story would be ancient history.

The “Secret Service” finally gave an autopsy report to the FBI on December 23, 1963,  more than a month after the assassination, and on the same day, the “Secret Service” gave an entirely different autopsy report to the Warren Commission. Lee Rankin was apparently looking at this other version of the autopsy report during the Warren Commission’s Executive Session in January when he said it had “an explanation” that “probably a fragment came out the front of the neck.”

I think Rankin might have been looking at the FBI Summary Report. Two agents at the autopsy reported some early speculation by Humes and others that the back wound had no exit. Turned out the tracheotomy done in Dallas had been made through the throat wound.

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The autopsy report that was given to the FBI eventually became the “official” autopsy report.

The FBI Summary Report didn't have the autopsy report, only their agents' observations, sort of non-medical hearsay.

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It states that a bullet entered “above the scapula”  (otherwise known as the shoulder blade), which directly contradicts the autopsy report stating that a bullet “entered below the shoulder blade.”

So you think the bullet entered below the scapula bone? That's about T7-T9.

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To repeat, the CIA killed President Kennedy as part of their effort to control the government. It’s all in my book. Click the link.

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2021, 02:23:39 AM »
There is clear and concise documentation of two different autopsy reports being sent over to the National Archives.

Assistant Secret Service Director Thomas J. Kelley wrote a “Memorandum for File” in 1969 stating that the National Archives had records of receiving an “original” autopsy report in 1966 and a second “original” autopsy report in 1967.

Kelley’s memorandum states that when the “inventory” of items was turned over to the Archives in “October 1966,” it included the “original” of the “complete autopsy protocol of President Kennedy.” It also states that the Secret Service “forwarded to the Archivist the original autopsy protocol on October 3, 1967,” which is the official autopsy report on file as Warren Commission Exhibit No. 387.

Assistant Secret Service Director Kelley noted a “discrepancy” in having two different original autopsy reports. Kelley wrote that they “were unable to resolve this discrepancy” and that “some of the items on the inventory were not in the possession of the Archives.”

Kelley’s 1969 memorandum also states that “articles described in Item No. 9 . . . cannot be found in the Archives.”

According to a 1970 National Archives memorandum, the “complete autopsy protocol of President Kennedy,” the first one sent over in 1966, was listed “under Item 9,”  meaning this particular “original” autopsy report was missing from the Archives.

Assistant Secret Service Director Kelley’s 1969 memorandum states, “A careful search was made in the Archives to ascertain what happened to the articles described in Item No. 9.”

Kelley was “assured” that “the Archivist had made a thorough search of all of the material on hand to make sure that the material in question had not been received by the Archivist at another time or under other circumstances.”

Kelley’s 1969 memorandum and the National Archives 1970 memorandum prove conclusively that there were two different autopsy reports, both of which were obviously fabricated to cover up the conspiracy to assassinate President John F. Kennedy, and one of those autopsy reports has disappeared from the National Archives.

It’s all in my book. Click the link.

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2021, 06:27:39 AM »
Let's recap.

In the Warren Commission’s Executive Session on January 27, 1964, the Commission’s General Counsel, Lee Rankin, stated, “We have an explanation there in the autopsy that probably a fragment came out the front of the neck.”

Rankin continued, “It seems quite apparent now, since we have the picture of where the bullet entered in the back, that the bullet entered below the shoulder blade to the right of the backbone, which is below the place where the picture shows the bullet came out in the neckband of the shirt in front.”

Rankin repeated that according to the autopsy report, there were “bullet fragments” from an alleged rear headshot, one of which “came out in part through the neck.”

Rankin, who had “the picture of where the bullet entered in the back,” could clearly see that President Kennedy’s back wound was “below the shoulder blade,” and he could see that the back wound was below President Kennedy’s throat wound.

The pictures on which Rankin based his statements were the real deal.

Autopsy photos were clearly fabricated to place the backwound farther up on JFK's back in order to support the new autopsy report stating that a bullet entered “above the scapula,” otherwise known as the shoulder blade.

JFK was shot from the front. Case Closed.

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2021, 12:08:26 PM »
Let's recap.

In the Warren Commission’s Executive Session on January 27, 1964, the Commission’s General Counsel, Lee Rankin, stated, “We have an explanation there in the autopsy that probably a fragment came out the front of the neck.”

Rankin continued, “It seems quite apparent now, since we have the picture of where the bullet entered in the back, that the bullet entered below the shoulder blade to the right of the backbone, which is below the place where the picture shows the bullet came out in the neckband of the shirt in front.”

Rankin repeated that according to the autopsy report, there were “bullet fragments” from an alleged rear headshot, one of which “came out in part through the neck.”

Rankin, who had “the picture of where the bullet entered in the back,” could clearly see that President Kennedy’s back wound was “below the shoulder blade,” and he could see that the back wound was below President Kennedy’s throat wound.

The pictures on which Rankin based his statements were the real deal.

Autopsy photos were clearly fabricated to place the backwound farther up on JFK's back in order to support the new autopsy report stating that a bullet entered “above the scapula,” otherwise known as the shoulder blade.

JFK was shot from the front. Case Closed.

Case Closed??

Where was the front shot taken from and at what z-frame?
What was the trajectory of the bullet through the throat?
How many bullets were in JFK's body at the time of his death (at least two I presume)?
Was the Z-film a fabrication?

And lots of other questions but let's keep it that for now

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2021, 09:40:42 PM »
Case Closed??

Where was the front shot taken from and at what z-frame?
What was the trajectory of the bullet through the throat?
How many bullets were in JFK's body at the time of his death (at least two I presume)?
Was the Z-film a fabrication?

And lots of other questions but let's keep it that for now

The evidence that he was shot from the front is irrefutable. See my first post and Reply #8 for the irrefutable evidence that he was shot from the front.

You, Dan, posit that he could not have been shot from the front because we do not know "where was the front shot taken from and at what z-frame."

You, Dan, posit that he could not have been shot from the front because we do not know "the trajectory of the bullet through the throat."

You, Dan, posit that he could not have been shot from the front because we do not know "how many bullets were in JFK's body at the time of his death.

I could not care less about the Z-film and whether or not it has been altered. To repeat, the evidence that JFK was shot from the front is irrefutable.

There were three assassins. Two were KGB officers inside the CIA and one was a CIA “double agent” (an American CIA officer who knowingly and willingly worked for the KGB).

JFK was shot twice from the front and once from the back.

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2021, 10:39:22 AM »
Anyone who thinks Oswald was the lone assassin is a conspiracy theorist, because they think all of these people conspired to say JFK was shot from the front.


Kennedy was shot from the rear. Two strikes. One in the base of the neck. The other just above the EOP. Those at Parkland who reported seeing a large hole in the back of the head were mistaken. The autopsy photos and X-rays do not lie.

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