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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Should the TSBD be demolished?
« Reply #104 on: June 26, 2021, 04:53:11 PM »
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How come the same people who are tearing down these statues are the same ones constructing statues of an individual who robbed a pregnant woman at gun point?

They're the "same ones"? You sure about that? You seem to paint pretty broadly there and delight in stereotypes.

The Floyd statue is mean to honor the Turning Point in History of his death, when a White Power police officer was finally brought to justice for the cold-blood murder of a black man.

Maybe you think Chauvin is the one who, per Fox News' Tucker Carlson, was lynched? Or are you just going to keep pussyfooting around with your dog-whistles and tropes?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #105 on: June 26, 2021, 05:21:58 PM »



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Re: Should the TSBD be demolished?
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2021, 05:28:24 PM »
They're the "same ones"? You sure about that? You seem to paint pretty broadly there and delight in stereotypes.

The Floyd statue is mean to honor the Turning Point in History of his death, when a White Power police officer was finally brought to justice for the cold-blood murder of a black man.

Maybe you think Chauvin is the one who, per Fox News' Tucker Carlson, was lynched? Or are you just going to keep pussyfooting around with your dog-whistles and tropes?

Are they going to build a statue to the unarmed woman and former military vet killed by the Capitol police?  I'm guessing not.  At least Floyd's murderer was convicted after an open investigation.  They have covered up all the details of the Jan. 6 shooting including the name of the officer involved.  Where is the outrage?  Again, you do not appear to really be concerned with police abuses or racism but using certain selective incidences for political purposes.  The Dems need 80-90% of the black vote to have any chance of winning an election.  As a result, they must convince black citizens that they are subject to racism and only their white elitists liberal overlords can protect them from the racist republicans.  But if a liberal elitist like Trudeau puts on blackface and acts like a moron, there is nothing to see.  It's all Trump's fault.   In actuality, we live in the most prosperous and diverse society in the history of the world.  It is sad and unfortunate that there are those who try to divide folks based on race, gender, and income.  A very destructive way to maintain political power.
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Re: Should the TSBD be demolished?
« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2021, 07:07:49 PM »
Are they going to build a statue to the unarmed woman and former military vet killed by the Capitol police?

Now Richard, even you know that if the protestors were BLM or poor people or others who don't enjoy White Priviledge, they wouldn't have made it up the steps. Ashli Babbitt was shot leading a violent mob that included people who were actively using with things like flagpoles and fire extinguishers to damage property and injure police officers; and a few protestors had guns, Tasers, bear spray and baseball bats. A former girlfriend of her husband had to get a protection order against Babbitt. Babbitt was a QAnon nut who once tweeted "Biden the kid raper".

The day before Babbitt helped storm the Capitol, she tweeted: "Nothing will stop us....they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours....dark to light!" She was lifted up in an attempt to get through the door panel opening (probably so she could reach through to undo the lock).

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I'm guessing not.

You're OK with the Confederate statues coming down, right?

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At least Floyd's murderer was convicted after an open investigation.

Only because this time there was video. The first "official" police report made it sound like the police were helping Floyd: "noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress".

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They have covered up all the details of the Jan. 6 shooting including the name of the officer involved.  Where is the outrage?

"Department of Justice Closes Investigation into the Death of Ashli Babbitt" ( Link )

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Again, you do not appear to really be concerned with police abuses or racism but using certain selective incidences for political purposes.  The Dems need 80-90% of the black vote to have any chance of winning an election.  As a result, they must convince black citizens that they are subject to racism and only their white elitists liberal overlords can protect them from the racist republicans.

Wow. You got it bad. Fox News, Breitbart and the like, I suppose. You evidently think black people can be coerced and misled en masse. If what you say was even half-true, black people was see it long before Republican gas-lighters.

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But if a liberal elitist like Trudeau puts on blackface and acts like a moron, there is nothing to see.  It's all Trump's fault.   In actuality, we live in the most prosperous and diverse society in the history of the world.



You'll be happy to know that you're certainly not the most diverse society in the world. The "Great White North" is well above you there. If only your prosperity was "diverse" but it's increasingly-concentrated in the upper-tier Percent, large corporations and big industry. China and other countries will soon eclipse America by some metrics, such as manufacturing. Per capita wealth, America is about 15th in the world. I know some things you're No. 1 in, though.

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It is sad and unfortunate that there are those who try to divide folks based on race, gender, and income.  A very destructive way to maintain political power.

I think it's you and your fellow radicalized Republicans who want there to be "nothing to see here". That the voice of black people who want structural racism to be exposed ought not to be heard. That such people are un-American. Nouveau McCarthyism.
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Re: Should the TSBD be demolished?
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2021, 09:56:30 PM »
Ashli Babbitt was shot leading a violent mob........ 
Ashli Babbitt was not leading anything.
Before you come back with the usual...the DOJ has already closed the thing and continues to refuse to name the shooter that murdered her.
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The investigation determined that, on January 6, 2021, Ms. Babbitt joined a crowd of people that gathered on the U.S. Capitol grounds to protest the results of the 2020 presidential election.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt
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« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2021, 11:17:44 PM »
Ashli Babbitt was not leading anything.



"WWG1WGA" (Where We Go One We Go All)

Sure. Babbitt was just walking by on the sidewalk taking in the sights. She probably was in the midst of reading "Schindler's List" and "Just Mercy". Never mind she had traveled from California to DC specifically to partake in something rather nasty ("the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours"). That she, a military-trained out-of-control conspiracy nut, was at the front of the mob attacking the hallway doors. That she apparently tried to unlock the door through the smashed-open panel.

Innocent bystander. :D

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Before you come back with the usual...the DOJ has already closed the thing and continues to refuse to name the shooter that murdered her. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt

The Capitol Police said not releasing the name was: "standard procedure when there are concerns for an officer’s safety, as there are in this case." The Capitol Police are a bit behind the times in terms of being required to report the names of officers involved in shootings; they also don't wear body-cams. Now the Capitol police, which were used to seeing friendly folk, will have to be like metropolitan police.

Nothing real sinister there and Babbitt did far worst than many unarmed black people do when they're shot by police. The officer may have thought Babbitt had a gun in her hand; you know, one of the usual excuses police use when they shoot blacks.

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Re: Should the TSBD be demolished?
« Reply #110 on: June 27, 2021, 12:49:23 AM »
The Capitol Police said not releasing the name was: "standard procedure when there are concerns for an officer’s safety, as there are in this case."
  Babbitt did far worst than many unarmed black people do when they're shot by police. The officer may have thought Babbitt had a gun in her hand; you know, one of the usual excuses police use when they shoot blacks.
Babbitt did far worst worse?
Lets see...The nation makes a role model out of a career criminal, drug addict and all around bum---
By evenings end...the entire planet knew Derek Chauvin's name no "officer's safety concern there.
https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/
Ashli Babbitt's crime was that she was a supporter of Donald Trump and part of the Capitol crowd. I can find no criminal history concerning her. So "far worse"? Why say that?

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Re: Should the TSBD be demolished?
« Reply #111 on: June 27, 2021, 01:48:18 AM »
Babbitt did far worst worse?
Lets see...The nation makes a role model out of a career criminal, drug addict and all around bum---

Tell us where we can see Floyd was made "a role model".

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By evenings end...the entire planet knew Derek Chauvin's name no "officer's safety concern there.

Was Floyd arrested in the midst of a sympathetic angry semi-armed mob who were threatening the police with taunts, physical assaulting several and refusing to comply? Also, Chauvin wasn't the singular policeman who did harm to Floyd over the course of nearly ten minutes.

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Ashli Babbitt's crime was that she was a supporter of Donald Trump and part of the Capitol crowd.

That's not a crime nor why she was shot. Supporting a racist like Trump is a huge moral lapse, maybe. So, Babbitt was just a typical run-of-the-mill supporter of Donald Trump who believed Democrats were raping children?

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I can find no criminal history concerning her. So "far worse"? Why say that?

You're comparing criminal records. What I was discussing was Babbitt's actions at the time she was shot; she was a QAnon zealot at the front of a vicious mob defying police and causing them physical harm, she reportedly shouted threats against the police and shouted "Go! Go!" as she was lifted up (so she could, I believe, attempt to unbolt the hallway barrier). By contrast, Floyd was handcuffed and pinned to the ground, gradually getting weaker until he suffocated.

Whether it's the Klan or Donald Trump talking about women being killed by migrants, the deaths of white women have served as a "rallying cry" to recruit or justify their evil.

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