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False Witness Vs On The Trail of Delusion
« on: June 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM »
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Both of these books are probably the two leading books dismantling the case that Jim Garrison made against Clay Shaw. The question is - what is the difference between these two books and which one is better? Or perhaps there is a third option and both books should be read (if they both offer something unique). But I would prefer to read only one book on this topic as Jim Garrison seems to be a fraud so I don't want him taking up too much of my time.

Here is a video promo for "On The Trail of Delusion":


And here is the documentary that was made based on Patricia Lamberts book "False Witness":



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Offline Fred Litwin

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2021, 08:28:03 PM »
When I decided to write my book on Jim Garrison, I decided to not only tell the story of Clay Shaw, but to also
tell the stories of other people he went after. And this is where my book differs from Patricia Lambert - she only
focused on Clay Shaw and Oliver Stone. And so, I tell the stories of Clyde Johnson, Edgar Eugene Bradley, Thomas
Beckham, Fred Crisman, Kerry Thornley, and I also have a very large chapter on Permindex. I am one of the few
people to go through the papers of Louis Bloomfield, who was a Montreal lawyer who represented several
investors in Permindex. And so, if you want the real truth about Permindex/CMC, read my book.

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2021, 08:33:09 PM »
When I decided to write my book on Jim Garrison, I decided to not only tell the story of Clay Shaw, but to also
tell the stories of other people he went after. And this is where my book differs from Patricia Lambert - she only
focused on Clay Shaw and Oliver Stone. And so, I tell the stories of Clyde Johnson, Edgar Eugene Bradley, Thomas
Beckham, Fred Crisman, Kerry Thornley, and I also have a very large chapter on Permindex. I am one of the few
people to go through the papers of Louis Bloomfield, who was a Montreal lawyer who represented several
investors in Permindex. And so, if you want the real truth about Permindex/CMC, read my book.

Would you recommend reading "False Witness" too or is your book more or less good enough as a one-stop book on this topic?

Also, what did Gus Russo mean by the book is lavishly illustrated? What kind of pictures are in your book?

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Offline Fred Litwin

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2021, 08:53:50 PM »
I would certainly recommend people read False Witness. It is a terrific book.

I have put a lot of documents into my book. As well as pictures. I wanted people to
see the documents for themselves.

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2021, 08:57:05 PM »
I would certainly recommend people read False Witness. It is a terrific book.

I have put a lot of documents into my book. As well as pictures. I wanted people to
see the documents for themselves.

fred

Thanks. False Witness is so old at the stage its hard to consider picking it up if there is a more up-to-date version like "On The Trail of Delusion".

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2021, 01:11:23 AM »
I tell the stories of Clyde Johnson, Edgar Eugene Bradley, Thomas Beckham, Fred Crisman, Kerry Thornley.

Did you skip David Ferrie, the focus of Garrison’s investigation when it was first publicized on February 17, 1967?

Ferrie died on February 21, four days after Garrison’s investigation became public.

And did you skip Eladio Del Valle?

An October 1967 letter from the CIA to the Justice Department’s “Internal Security Division” states that Eladio Del Valle, who had been described as a “valuable witness” by Jim Garrison, had been “murdered in Miami on February 22, 1967,” the same day that the body of Ferrie was discovered.

Del Valle “had been involved in anti-Cuban operations.”

With David Ferrie and Eladio Del Valle both dead, which would be the original target of Garrison’s investigation and a “valuable witness” in the investigation, Garrison focused his prosecutorial efforts on Clay Shaw in order to make his case for a conspiracy.

The CIA told the Justice Department’s Internal Security Division that Garrison’s prosecution of Shaw was exposing “people who have been involved in Cuban operations.”

The CIA gathered intelligence on Garrison and on all aspects of his investigation. An abundance of CIA memorandums and communications reveal top-level CIA officials focused on the Garrison investigation.

Two months after Del Valle and Ferrie were murdered, an April 26 CIA memo stated that there are “loads of possible concern to CIA because of what may be an intent to involve the Agency directly or indirectly.”

A June 1967 CIA memo, written shortly after the CIA realized they had a “problem,” states, “The activity of District Attorney James C. Garrison of New Orleans shows no signs of abating . . . . We shall continue to study all available information about the New Orleans investigation.”

In September 1967, the CIA documented, “Since the Garrison investigation was first publicized in February 1967, we have kept book on all persons in the case: 139 to date.”

The CIA also established the “Garrison Group,” consisting of some of the senior-most officials in the CIA; the Executive Director, the Deputy Director for Plans, the Deputy Director of Support, the CIA General Counsel, the CIA Inspector General, and Raymond G. Rocca, the Chief of Research and Analysis in the CIA’s Counterintelligence Division.

A CIA memo states that at the first meeting of the Garrison Group on September 20, 1967, “Rocca felt that Garrison would, indeed, obtain a conviction of Shaw for conspiring to assassinate President Kennedy.”

The memo also quotes the CIA Executive Director as having said, “The possibility of Agency action should be examined from the timing of what can be done before the trial, and what might be feasible during and after the trial.”

The CIA also engaged in a world-wide propaganda campaign to discredit Garrison.

In July 1968, the CIA sent a dispatch to all CIA stations and bases around the world, and it contained a nineteen-page article critical of Garrison and his investigation. The dispatch states, “You may use the article to brief interested contacts, especially government and other political leaders.” It also states that the article should be used to demonstrate “that there is no hard evidence of any such conspiracy.”

The CIA had previously issued a “Propaganda Notes” Bulletin when the Warren Report came out in September 1964, and copies of the Warren Report were sent to CIA “field stations” so that “covert assets”  in the United States and around the world could “explain the tragedy” of President Kennedy’s assassination. The CIA also issued “Countering Criticism of the Warren Report” in January 1967.

And now, in 1968, the CIA was engaged in a worldwide effort to disparage a New Orleans District Attorney and his investigation.

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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2021, 05:45:33 AM »
I know that Eladio Del Valle is dead. The CIA was obsessed with Garrison's investigation and with preventing anyone from connecting anti-Castro Cubans to the JFK assassination.

The CIA was obsessed with the JFK assassination because they were behind it.

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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2021, 05:45:33 AM »