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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2021, 06:31:48 PM »
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In other words, when you respond to a post from someone you disagree with anyway ...you are going out of your way to 'be nice' but regard this someone as best spending their time by going out and feeding the pigeons or something?
The poster was just pointing out the obvious and to sum it up...no one [in all the annals of crime] has ever left so many dozens of clues [that even a blind man could follow]... that say "I did it, come get me" than Lee Harvey Oswald. The more experts and science they threw at their case...the less I believed it.

Of the many weak arguments as to doubt of Oswald's guilt, none is perhaps more bizarre than the claim that he left so much evidence that we can only conclude that he is innocent.  Oswald was smart enough to know that if he assassinated the President of the United States in broad daylight in the presence of a crowd and many law enforcement members, that he was not going to escape arrest or death.  That was part of the equation that he accepted in deciding to go forward with the act.  Do you think he realistically thought he was going to shoot JFK on Friday, and then somehow avoid being discovered and go about his business?  A former defector to the USSR who worked in the building from which the shots were fired who had no alibi?  It's ludicrous.  Oswald made a conscious decision to commit the assassination with the realization that he would not escape from that act.   The evidence he left behind didn't matter to him in that context.  It's effectively a suicidal act. 

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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2021, 08:33:15 PM »
And the movie attendant who sees him calls the cops. The same cops that just happen to be in the middle of searching for an assassin who just murdered the president of the united states. But when the cops hear about a movie sneaker they decide to stop searching for the assassin and go handle the movie sneaker instead. Why? Because a movie sneaker is far more important and dangerous than a presidential assassin and a cop killer. And so naturally the police race to the movie theater as fast they can.

The above comments only prove that you are clueless about the actions of the law enforcement personnel in Oak Cliff during their search for the cop-killer between 1:17 pm and 1:50 pm.

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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2021, 02:43:26 AM »
Oswald was smart enough to know that if he assassinated the President of the United States in broad daylight in the presence of a crowd and many law enforcement members, that he was not going to escape arrest or death.

Having made it all the way back to the rooming house without a glitch, if Oswald was that smart he would have sat down with Earlene Roberts, and a glass of sweet milk, and watched the show on TV.

Running around Oak Cliff with a gun is pure lunacy, even by LN standards.

Oswald was probably as surprised as anyone that he got out of the TSBD. What exactly was he supposed to do after assassinating the President?  A guy who didn't own a car and had almost no money.  What was his play at that point?  Sitting at his boarding house waiting for the FBI to say wait a second we know the guy who is missing from the TSBD defected to the USSR? What a coincidence.  LOL.  Oswald was making tracks in the time honored tradition of desperate criminals.  He knew the FBI would be on his arse soon like blackface on Trudeau.  He wasn't going to wait for the DPD to come knocking.  He wasn't "running" around Oak Cliff.  He panicked when he saw a police car and drew the attention of a hero police officer.  After that he was toast.

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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2021, 03:05:22 AM »
Oswald was probably as surprised as anyone that he got out of the TSBD. What exactly was he supposed to do after assassinating the President?  A guy who didn't own a car and had almost no money.  What was his play at that point?  Sitting at his boarding house waiting for the FBI to say wait a second we know the guy who is missing from the TSBD defected to the USSR? What a coincidence.  LOL.  Oswald was making tracks in the time honored tradition of desperate criminals.  He knew the FBI would be on his arse soon like blackface on Trudeau.  He wasn't going to wait for the DPD to come knocking.  He wasn't "running" around Oak Cliff.  He panicked when he saw a police car and drew the attention of a hero police officer.  After that he was toast.

Yep, like the Boston Bomber who just ran out of places to be and was caught hiding in a boat, Oswald was caught hiding in a theatre.





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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2021, 03:18:11 PM »
Oswald was probably as surprised as anyone that he got out of the TSBD.

Time to kick his feet up and celebrate, all that sweet milk in the fridge, yummy!

What was his play at that point?  Sitting at his boarding house waiting for the FBI to say wait a second we know the guy who is missing from the TSBD defected to the USSR?

Nobody knew his Beckley address. Otherwise cite.

What a coincidence.  LOL.

Um...?

Oswald was making tracks in the time honored tradition of desperate criminals.

No desperation whatsoever detected by Truly and Baker, you made that up.

He knew the FBI would be on his arse soon like blackface on Trudeau.

Why?

He wasn't going to wait for the DPD to come knocking.

Why not? Fritz sent his boys to Irving to pick him up -- ROFL

He wasn't "running" around Oak Cliff.

Then specify destination.

He panicked when he saw a police car and drew the attention of a hero police officer.

He wasn't there, sorry.

After that he was toast.

Sure as Sunday, but your canned LN BS still makes no sense.

Are you really suggesting that if Oswald assassinated the President of the United States that his best move to escape detection was to sit at the Beckley boardinghouse because no one knew the address!  HA HA HA.  Then what?  Let's see.  The FBI was already keeping track of him even before the assassination.  They were already aware of his defection to the USSR and that he was a political nut.  They would shortly come to realize that he worked in the TSBD and was missing.  Someone would find his rifle at the crime scene.  For all Oswald knew, there were witnesses on the street who saw him fire the shots and the police were already searching for him (per his panic when he saw Tippit's car).  A cop had already pulled a gun on him.  His wife had the phone number.  It wouldn't take the FBI and DPD very long to find him.  There were no good options but what you have suggested is idiotic and hilarious.  Keep them coming.  How about this?  If Oswald didn't assassinate JFK, then he would have done what other TSBD employees did.  Hang around until he was sent home.  But your hero was making tracks.

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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2021, 03:18:11 PM »


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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2021, 03:58:52 PM »
Are you really suggesting that if Oswald assassinated the President of the United States that his best move to escape detection was to sit at the Beckley boardinghouse because no one knew the address!  HA HA HA.  Then what?  Let's see.  The FBI was already keeping track of him even before the assassination.  They were already aware of his defection to the USSR and that he was a political nut.  They would shortly come to realize that he worked in the TSBD and was missing.  Someone would find his rifle at the crime scene.  For all Oswald knew, there were witnesses on the street who saw him fire the shots and the police were already searching for him (per his panic when he saw Tippit's car).  A cop had already pulled a gun on him.  His wife had the phone number.  It wouldn't take the FBI and DPD very long to find him.  There were no good options but what you have suggested is idiotic and hilarious.  Keep them coming.  How about this?  If Oswald didn't assassinate JFK, then he would have done what other TSBD employees did.  Hang around until he was sent home.  But your hero was making tracks.

Key phrase = 'For all Oswald knew'

Ppl, put yourself in Oswald's shoes

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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2021, 07:14:41 PM »
Are you really suggesting that if Oswald assassinated the President of the United States that his best move to escape detection was to sit at the Beckley boardinghouse because no one knew the address!

You entirely missed the point, again: He wasn't detected, even Truly vouched for him -- DOH

HA HA HA.

The joke is on you in case you haven't noticed.

Then what?  Let's see.  The FBI was already keeping track of him even before the assassination.  They were already aware of his defection to the USSR and that he was a political nut.

So what?

They would shortly come to realize that he worked in the TSBD and was missing.

Wrong, Hosty already knew where he worked. Missing, so what?

For all Oswald knew, there were witnesses on the street who saw him fire the shots and the police were already searching for him (per his panic when he saw Tippit's car).

Not if he was on the couch with Earlene.

A cop had already pulled a gun on him.

Who?

His wife had the phone number.

So what?

It wouldn't take the FBI and DPD very long to find him.

So what?

There were no good options but what you have suggested is idiotic and hilarious.

Explain how running around Oak Cliff (allegedly) with a gun would improve his odds.

Keep them coming.

You bet, every time your confused rants show up.

How about this?  If Oswald didn't assassinate JFK, then he would have done what other TSBD employees did.  Hang around until he was sent home.

How about it? Oswald didn't do what everyone else did anyway. How many TSBD employees had defected and brought back a Russian wife?

But your hero was making tracks.

Wrong again, he's not my hero.


This far out even from you.  You don't think it might raise some red flags once the FBI realized that a person of interest to them for his defection to the USSR was an employee missing from the building from which the shots were fired that killed the President of the United States?  Whew.  Unfortunately, Oswald was much smarter than yourself.  Granted that is not saying much. He realized that he had only a limited window of opportunity to beat it.  To suggest it would have improved his chances of escape to sit in his boardinghouse is laughable.   There was no good plan or realistic possibility of escape, but staying there would effectively be giving himself up.  And using the fact that Oswald defected to the USSR to explain his fleeing the TSBD because he acted differently than others is wild rabbit hole nonsense.  If anyone were going to stick around at the TSBD to see all the excitement, it was Oswald.  He had an obvious interest in politics, history and had read books on JFK.  But not on 11.22.  He put on his boogie shoes. 

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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2021, 09:59:29 PM »
Oswald was probably as surprised as anyone that he got out of the TSBD.

Time to kick his feet up and celebrate, all that sweet milk in the fridge, yummy!

What was his play at that point?  Sitting at his boarding house waiting for the FBI to say wait a second we know the guy who is missing from the TSBD defected to the USSR?

Nobody knew his Beckley address. Otherwise cite.

What a coincidence.  LOL.

Um...?

Oswald was making tracks in the time honored tradition of desperate criminals.

No desperation whatsoever detected by Truly and Baker, you made that up.

He knew the FBI would be on his arse soon like blackface on Trudeau.

Why?

He wasn't going to wait for the DPD to come knocking.

Why not? Fritz sent his boys to Irving to pick him up -- ROFL

He wasn't "running" around Oak Cliff.

Then specify destination.

He panicked when he saw a police car and drew the attention of a hero police officer.

He wasn't there, sorry.

After that he was toast.

Sure as Sunday, but your canned LN BS still makes no sense.

Nobody knew his Beckley address.
He wouldn’t have necessarily known that for certain

Then specify destination
He said he was going to the movies

No desperation whatsoever detected by Truly and Baker
Seems staying at least outwardly calm worked

He wasn't there, sorry.
Um…?
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Re: Ignoring Evidence in Favor of Oswald
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