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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #208 on: August 20, 2021, 10:31:39 PM »
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A common rhetorical device of conspiracy theorists ... is to advance speculations and then criticize the authorities for not definitively refuting them. They also rely on an inherently implausible claim of a coverup by government agencies that don't really have a very good record of covering things up.

A common rhetorical device of the "Oswald did it" evangelists is to assume that if a government agent says something it must be true.  Unless of course it doesn't fit the narrative.  Then he's a liar.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #209 on: August 20, 2021, 10:37:50 PM »
Must have faded away, or Latona thought they were "fragmentary". The print was second-hand (ahem) by time the FBI received the rifle.

Must have!   :D

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #210 on: August 20, 2021, 10:50:15 PM »
Mr. "I am not a Conspiracy Theorist". Here's some "LOL"s for your use.

LOL LOL LOL

Evangelists? You got a beef with religion, sonny?  ::)

No, it's just that religions (including the Warren Report religion) based their beliefs on faith rather than evidence.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #211 on: August 20, 2021, 10:52:05 PM »
The problem with "Mytton"'s cartoon is that some of those dots appear on one but not on the other.  Game over.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #212 on: August 20, 2021, 11:31:19 PM »
Yes, that is the slot that I was asking about way earlier in this thread. I attempted to ask whether it extended past the end of the bayonet lug when the barrel is installed properly in it’s slot. But things got confused and I believe that we ended up discussing the slot for the actual bayonet on the under side of the stock. When you apply that slot to your diagram, we should have an answer I believe. Walt could possibly confirm this on an actual rifle also I believe.



The large slot at the forward end of the stock extends back from the front of the wooden stock, about 1 inch.... That slot is 5/16 " wide (the width of the bayonet lug that fits into that slot.)

Does this information answer the question?

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #213 on: August 21, 2021, 01:43:47 AM »


The large slot at the forward end of the stock extends back from the front of the wooden stock, about 1 inch.... That slot is 5/16 " wide (the width of the bayonet lug that fits into that slot.)

Does this information answer the question?

Thanks, the other part of the question is: how much of the ~1” length of that slot does the metal bayonet lug fill up when the barrel is properly positioned onto the stock? In other words, is there much clearance between the rounded end of that slot and the bayonet lug?

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #214 on: August 21, 2021, 01:59:35 AM »
Thanks, the other part of the question is: how much of the ~1” length of that slot does the metal bayonet lug fill up when the barrel is properly positioned onto the stock? In other words, is there much clearance between the rounded end of that slot and the bayonet lug?

Charles, On page 132 of the WR there is a photo of a disassembled carcano. ( CE 1304) The barrel is floating directly above the stock and it's obvious where the bayonet lug fits into the stock.    I believe this photo will help you far better than I can.   

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #215 on: August 21, 2021, 02:07:06 AM »
I did an experiment on my previous wooden dowel demonstration posted earlier in this thread. I routed a 3/8” cavity in the bottom of the channel to see how the revised geometry works out regarding the theory of the dust and dirt being trapped in between the barrel and the stock. The revised geometry still works well for the theory, probably better. I will post a photo when I get a chance. I also have another theory regarding the purpose of the routed grooves in the bottom of the barrel channel. The top edges of the routed grooves contact the barrel and I believe that they hold the barrel firmly in position. Much better than the barrel could be held in place if the routed grooves were not there.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #215 on: August 21, 2021, 02:07:06 AM »