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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2021, 07:31:11 PM »
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I was expecting 'how does Oswald taking Kaiser's clipboard prove he shot anybody?' from these researcher-wannabes. Ah, the good ol' days..

All we got was yet another demonstration of the critics not willing to accept anything that might point to Oswald being on the sixth floor.

"It's déjà vu all over again."     — Yogi Berra

    "Harold Weisberg, a Maryland poultry farmer who apparently dis-
     believes everything in the Warren Report but the page numbers".

    "But, far from hurting his book, Lane's shrill flamboyance, his willing-
     ness to startle TV audiences with new and dubious charges, boosted
     his sales".

          — Charles Roberts, The Truth About the Assassination (1967)

    "They seek to discredit the Commission's conclusions on valid points ...
     simply by calling attention to differences of opinion among the obser-
     vers ... treat blunders on the part of officials as proofs of dishonesty ...
     And they point to improbabilities ... as invalidating explanations given
     in the Report, when their own explanations of the same facts are, not
     merely on grounds of actuarial improbability, far more difficult to believe."

    "If one cannot attack conclusions that Mr. Lane refuses to state, one
     can at least criticize the methods he employs in establishing a basis
     for his innuendos."

          — John Sparrow, After the Assassination (1967)

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2021, 07:31:11 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #89 on: August 06, 2021, 07:40:46 PM »
The struggle of CTers against facts, common sense, and evidence is astounding.  Kaiser tells us that he made the clipboard.  He recognizes it.  His name is even all over it.  He also knows that Oswald has been using it because they are coworkers at the TSBD.  He explains all of this.  There is no ambiguity about it.  At yet the contrarians struggle like boats against the tide...

Mr. BALL. Now, Frankie, that clipboard you found describe it--what was it?
Mr. KAISER. It was made out of paper and tape and a little piece of pasteboard.
Mr. BALL. Who made it?
Mr. KAISER. I did.


Mr. BALL. And how was it you weren't using it on this day?
Mr. KAISER. You see, when he first started there
Mr. BALL. Who is "he"?
Mr. KAISER. Lee---when he first started to work there he got my clipboard and started using it.
Mr. BALL. Did you give it to him to use?
Mr. KAISER. No, he just picked it up and started using it and I just went and made me another one.
Mr. BALL. You recognized that clipboard when you saw it?
Mr. KAISER. Yes, because my name was all over it.
Mr. BALL. Your name was on it, too?
Mr. KAISER. Yes, sir.

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BONUS TIP for
OSWALD ARSE
KICKERS [aka
LNers]
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Mr. PINKSTON. I returned the clipboard to my office and made an exhibit as I recall.
Mr. BALL. Is it still an exhibit? It is an FBI exhibit?
Mr. PINKSTON. I believe so.
Mr. BALL. In the possession of the FBI?
Mr. PINKSTON. I haven't seen it since then.
Mr. BALL. Will you try to determine if you still have that as an exhibit in our office, or in Washington?
Mr. PINKSTON. Yes.
Mr. BALL. All right Now, this will be written up and will be submitted to you for your signature, or you can waive your signature.
Mr. PINKSTON. I would like to--
Mr. BALL. See it and read it?
Mr. PINKSTON. See it and read it and sign it.
Mr. BALL. You will be notified to come to this office and read it and sign it.
    (After the conclusion of the deposition and at 1 o'clock, p.m., on the same day as the taking of the deposition, Mr. Nat A. Pinkston appeared before me, Iris Leonard, stating that he wished the following statement to be incorporated with his deposition: "After reviewing my records, I am now able to state definitely that after examining the clipboard and the orders thereon, I left them at the Texas School Book Depository with Mr. Truly. The clipboard was picked up by another FBI agent at a later time and was made an exhibit.")

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BONUS TIP for
HIGH SCHOOL
DROP-OUTS &
OSWALD ARSE
KISSERS [aka
OAKers]
;D ;D ;D
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'All over it' would
be the three orders
signed by FrankieK
'Once used it' would
be enough
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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2021, 08:27:52 PM »
All we got was yet another demonstration of the critics not willing to accept anything that might point to Oswald being on the sixth floor.

"It's déjà vu all over again."     — Yogi Berra

    "Harold Weisberg, a Maryland poultry farmer who apparently dis-
     believes everything in the Warren Report but the page numbers".

    "But, far from hurting his book, Lane's shrill flamboyance, his willing-
     ness to startle TV audiences with new and dubious charges, boosted
     his sales".

          — Charles Roberts, The Truth About the Assassination (1967)

    "They seek to discredit the Commission's conclusions on valid points ...
     simply by calling attention to differences of opinion among the obser-
     vers ... treat blunders on the part of officials as proofs of dishonesty ...
     And they point to improbabilities ... as invalidating explanations given
     in the Report, when their own explanations of the same facts are, not
     merely on grounds of actuarial improbability, far more difficult to believe."

    "If one cannot attack conclusions that Mr. Lane refuses to state, one
     can at least criticize the methods he employs in establishing a basis
     for his innuendos."

          — John Sparrow, After the Assassination (1967)

What I do continue to get a kick out of is the high school drop-outs and kneeling Oswald arse-kissers still trying to be clever.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2021, 08:27:52 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #91 on: August 06, 2021, 09:09:14 PM »
He "recognized" it as having been used by Oswald because it had "Frankie Kaiser" written all over it.

Makes perfect sense.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #92 on: August 06, 2021, 09:10:54 PM »
The old impossible standard of proof trick.  More rabbit hole nonsense.  Kaiser made the clipboard.   His name is on it. He knew Oswald - his own coworker was using it.  He found it on the 6th floor after the assassination.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to put this together.

And by "put this together", "Richard" means making up a story and calling it a fact.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #93 on: August 08, 2021, 09:06:45 PM »
And by "put this together", "Richard" means making up a story and calling it a fact.

Would someone please present solid PROOF that Lee Oswald was using that clipboard on 11-22- 63.......

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2021, 04:34:05 PM »
Would someone please present solid PROOF that Lee Oswald was using that clipboard on 11-22- 63.......

Again, Oswald's coworker confirmed that he made a specific clipboard.  He could identify this clipboard to the exclusion of any other clipboard because he made it and it had his name "all over it."  Kaiser also confirmed that this was the clipboard that Oswald was using when he worked at the TSBD.  This clipboard was found on the 6th floor.  It included invoices dated 11.22.  Kaiser was not at work on 11.22 but guess who was?  I'm not sure how there could be any more evidence than exists.  What do you believe is missing that would constitute "solid PROOF"?  A seance with Oswald?

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #95 on: August 09, 2021, 04:47:42 PM »
Again, Oswald's coworker confirmed that he made a specific clipboard.  He could identify this clipboard to the exclusion of any other clipboard because he made it and it had his name "all over it."  Kaiser also confirmed that this was the clipboard that Oswald was using when he worked at the TSBD.  This clipboard was found on the 6th floor.  It included invoices dated 11.22.  Kaiser was not at work on 11.22 but guess who was?  I'm not sure how there could be any more evidence than exists.  What do you believe is missing that would constitute "solid PROOF"?  A seance with Oswald?

Obviously you recognize that the statement above is nothing but here say ......  And you have clearly avoided the  the biggest flaw in the tale....The fact that the clip board wasn't found until days after the assassination.    No..... On the second thought the biggest flaw is the fact that the clip board means absolutely NOTHING!..        It merely means that Frankie Kaiser's clip board was discovered on the sixth floor ......   Beyond that, it an indication of NOTHING.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #95 on: August 09, 2021, 04:47:42 PM »