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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2021, 09:16:51 PM »
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Boone said he saw the Carcano about 1:22. You would need the sun to be almost shining straight out from the West side to directly illuminate the crevasse where the rifle was found. About 1:22, the sun was shining on both the West and South sides equally. At 2:30, the sun is still not shining from fully onto the West side.



Day had to examine the rifle beside the window to better see it. You just said flashlights were needed. I think the light-bulbs in the ceiling were pretty-low wattage. I would guess they weren't just looking for the rifle; could have been small things as well, anything suspicious.





Look at the shadows in these two photos, and ask yourself..."were they taken at about the same time?

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2021, 09:16:51 PM »


Online Charles Collins

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2021, 01:34:39 AM »
Who knows, it was hidden in plain sight.

Actually, that little commie rat stole it:

Mr. BALL. Did you give it to him to use?
Mr. KAISER. No, he just picked it up and started using it and I just went and made me another one.

Oh, your boy Frankie also found Oswald's jacket in the domino room, coincidence?

Some people are naturally more observant than others.

Online Richard Smith

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2021, 02:47:17 AM »
Who knows, it was hidden in plain sight.

Actually, that little commie rat stole it:

Mr. BALL. Did you give it to him to use?
Mr. KAISER. No, he just picked it up and started using it and I just went and made me another one.

Oh, your boy Frankie also found Oswald's jacket in the domino room, coincidence?

It's impossible to follow what you are implying.  That he was involved in the plot with the role to discover Oswald's jacket and clipboard? 

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2021, 02:47:17 AM »


Online Sean Kneringer

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2021, 04:47:11 PM »
OTOH, conspirators who wanted to frame Oswald would have left it right by the window.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2021, 05:15:43 PM »
Just my observations spiced up with a bit of sarcasm.

Did you know there are different accounts of how the clipboard was recovered?

Sorry, I know, that would require you to actually know the evidence.

This means that you have no idea what you are implying as usual.  Just a desperate effort to raise any doubt. There are no different accounts of how it was found.  Kaiser confirmed he made the clipboard.  His name was on it.  He was the only person in a position to associate it with Oswald.  After the TSBD employees were allowed to return, he saw it and recognized its importance and brought it to the attention of his supervisors and the FBI.  No mystery.

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2021, 08:15:02 PM »
Good grief.  If Oswald had not hidden the rifle, CTers would be here clamoring for an explanation for why he left his rifle in plain sight.  Hiding the rifle takes him a few seconds.  He has a bullet left if anyone tries to stop him on that floor before he reaches the stairs.  He hides it just before exiting the floor.  Isn't the more obvious question why Oswald's rifle was on that floor hidden or otherwise?  And the answer is because he used it to assassinate JFK.

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.

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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2021, 08:16:18 PM »
That all makes sense.  What Oswald was thinking entails speculation but we know from the Walker incident that he was meticulous in his planning.  Once Oswald learned of JFK's motorcade route he likely scouted out locations in the building that provided him with the best combination of shooting location and seclusion.  He may have had more than one location given that he could not control the movements of people within the building.  He also would have decided where to hid to the rifle in advance.  As near as possible to the desired location.  He doesn't want to be seen carrying a long package in the moments before the assassination.  So he takes the rifle to the 6th floor that morning when he arrives.  His clipboard is later found in the same vicinity as the rifle.   That tells us he probably is carrying around his clipboard in his hand in the minutes before retrieving the rifle to give him the appearance of working on the floor if he encounters anyone up there in the minutes before the assassination.  Just Old Lee going about his work if anyone see him.  The last thing he does before retrieving his rifle is to lay down the clipboard thereby providing some indication of where he hid the rifle.

Cool story, bro.   ::)

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2021, 08:19:07 PM »
Until you consider when it was found.

...and that there was ZERO evidence that would associate this particular clipboard with Oswald.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2021, 08:19:07 PM »