Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?

[Walt Cakebread]

True, but I don't believe most combat troops in the field had scopes on their rifles? Right?

If we're talking about rifles with scopes I would guess that that was for snipers? Or in stationary situations where the shooter had time to set up? As you point out, a scope is utterly useless for a firefight/combat situation. So why have one on your rifle?

If you do have a rifle with a scope I would think they'd zero in first? They're shooting at stationary targets and not engaged in a firefight type situation.

This discussion is silly nonsense....Of course scopes were rare back in WWII.......  According to Richard Hobbs who is an expert on the Carcano....."The Italian Army did not issue a rifle with a scope for their sniper use.  They were issued accuracy marked rifles . The accuracy mark is crossed rifles in front of a target . This mark would be stamped on a rifle when it went through the test firing for final proofing, if the rifle proved to be extremely accurate."."

The silly debate is nothing but a diversion from the fact that the carcano that was carefully hidden beneath the pallet of books at the NW corner of the 6th floorwas NOT the murder weapon.....  ( It was already well hidden beneath that pallet of books at the time of the murder. )

[Gerry Down]

They may have zeroed in the scope when not in action. But did they "zero" in their scope while in the field and making kill shots?

Oswald would have had to zero in his rifle as he brought it in in pieces. The main thing about zeroing a rifle is to make sure it doesn't fire left or right of the intended target. The shooter has to compensate up and down with his (or her) aiming to allow for shooting at a target that might be close or far away. This is why lho prob used the iron sights. He had no way to know if the rifle would fire left or right of where he positioned the crosshairs of the scope as he obviously could not zero in the rifle once inside the TSBD.

[Walt Cakebread]

Oswald would have had to zero in his rifle as he brought it in in pieces. The main thing about zeroing a rifle is to make sure it doesn't fire left or right of the intended target. The shooter has to compensate up and down with his (or her) aiming to allow for shooting at a target that might be close or far away. This is why lho prob used the iron sights. He had no way to know if the rifle would fire left or right of where he positioned the crosshairs of the scope as he obviously could not zero in the rifle once inside the TSBD.

lho prob used the iron sights.

LHO  never used either the scope or the iron sights.....  The rifle was NOT the murder weapon.    It was hidden beneath the pallet of books on the sixth floor in the NW corner of the TSBD at the time JFK was murdered.

[Richard Smith]

"Noted" -- LOL

Evidence number?

FBI Report?

And I'm the rookie!  LOL.  You have apparent access to a computer.  Try something called "Google."

[Bill Chapman]

Oswald would have had to zero in his rifle as he brought it in in pieces. The main thing about zeroing a rifle is to make sure it doesn't fire left or right of the intended target. The shooter has to compensate up and down with his (or her) aiming to allow for shooting at a target that might be close or far away. This is why lho prob used the iron sights. He had no way to know if the rifle would fire left or right of where he positioned the crosshairs of the scope as he obviously could not zero in the rifle once inside the TSBD.

I can't see why the 200 meter factory-zeroed Carcano would not remain intact when Oswald merely had to slot the barrel/trigger mechanism back in place, which would obviously fit even more snuggly as the screws were tightened.

[Charles Collins]

Just curious, how do the shooting distances of the attempt on Walker and the Dealey Plaza distances compare?

[John Mytton]

You mean the alleged orders were not in evidence?

Huh? Evidence of what?

That Oswald worked that day, we know that he was there.

Mr. BALL - Did you notice whether or not Lee had a package that looked like a lunch package that morning?
Mr. FRAZIER - You know like I told you earlier, I say, he didn't take his lunch because I remember right when I got in the car I asked him where was his lunch and he said he was going to buy his lunch that day.

That Oswald was carrying around a clipboard, we know that he did.

Mr. WILLIAMS. The morning of November 22d Oswald was on the floor. The only time I saw him that morning was a little after eight, after I had started working. As usual, he was walking around with a clipboard in his hands, I believe he was.

That Oswald was seen on the 6th floor carrying a clipboard, it's a given that he did.

Mr. GIVENS. He was between the stock and the window, coming towards the elevators.
Mr. BELIN. Coming towards the elevators?
Mr. GIVENS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Did you see all of his body or not?
Mr. GIVENS. Yes, sir; he had his clipboard in his hand.

The elevator was right next to where the clipboard was found.







JohnM

[Richard Smith]

Huh? Evidence of what?

Ask Richard, he's the one who highlighted the date.

Round and round we go down the rabbit hole.  You asked for evidence of when Oswald used the clipboard. The clipboard contains a notation for 11.22 according to the FBI.  Put on your deerstalker hat and make like Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.   BTW:  you are the one who is suggesting doubt regarding clipboard.  If it was planted, then presumably that was done to implicate Oswald.  Otherwise that would be entirely pointless.  So it is incumbent on you to explain what the clipboard is evidence of.  I have simply suggested that Oswald may have placed the clipboard down when he retrieved his rifle.  Thus, it provides some insight on where his rifle was hidden.