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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2021, 08:27:52 PM »
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All we got was yet another demonstration of the critics not willing to accept anything that might point to Oswald being on the sixth floor.

"It's déjà vu all over again."     — Yogi Berra

    "Harold Weisberg, a Maryland poultry farmer who apparently dis-
     believes everything in the Warren Report but the page numbers".

    "But, far from hurting his book, Lane's shrill flamboyance, his willing-
     ness to startle TV audiences with new and dubious charges, boosted
     his sales".

          — Charles Roberts, The Truth About the Assassination (1967)

    "They seek to discredit the Commission's conclusions on valid points ...
     simply by calling attention to differences of opinion among the obser-
     vers ... treat blunders on the part of officials as proofs of dishonesty ...
     And they point to improbabilities ... as invalidating explanations given
     in the Report, when their own explanations of the same facts are, not
     merely on grounds of actuarial improbability, far more difficult to believe."

    "If one cannot attack conclusions that Mr. Lane refuses to state, one
     can at least criticize the methods he employs in establishing a basis
     for his innuendos."

          — John Sparrow, After the Assassination (1967)

What I do continue to get a kick out of is the high school drop-outs and kneeling Oswald arse-kissers still trying to be clever.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2021, 09:09:14 PM »
He "recognized" it as having been used by Oswald because it had "Frankie Kaiser" written all over it.

Makes perfect sense.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2021, 09:10:54 PM »
The old impossible standard of proof trick.  More rabbit hole nonsense.  Kaiser made the clipboard.   His name is on it. He knew Oswald - his own coworker was using it.  He found it on the 6th floor after the assassination.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to put this together.

And by "put this together", "Richard" means making up a story and calling it a fact.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2021, 09:06:45 PM »
And by "put this together", "Richard" means making up a story and calling it a fact.

Would someone please present solid PROOF that Lee Oswald was using that clipboard on 11-22- 63.......

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #76 on: August 09, 2021, 04:34:05 PM »
Would someone please present solid PROOF that Lee Oswald was using that clipboard on 11-22- 63.......

Again, Oswald's coworker confirmed that he made a specific clipboard.  He could identify this clipboard to the exclusion of any other clipboard because he made it and it had his name "all over it."  Kaiser also confirmed that this was the clipboard that Oswald was using when he worked at the TSBD.  This clipboard was found on the 6th floor.  It included invoices dated 11.22.  Kaiser was not at work on 11.22 but guess who was?  I'm not sure how there could be any more evidence than exists.  What do you believe is missing that would constitute "solid PROOF"?  A seance with Oswald?

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #77 on: August 09, 2021, 04:47:42 PM »
Again, Oswald's coworker confirmed that he made a specific clipboard.  He could identify this clipboard to the exclusion of any other clipboard because he made it and it had his name "all over it."  Kaiser also confirmed that this was the clipboard that Oswald was using when he worked at the TSBD.  This clipboard was found on the 6th floor.  It included invoices dated 11.22.  Kaiser was not at work on 11.22 but guess who was?  I'm not sure how there could be any more evidence than exists.  What do you believe is missing that would constitute "solid PROOF"?  A seance with Oswald?

Obviously you recognize that the statement above is nothing but here say ......  And you have clearly avoided the  the biggest flaw in the tale....The fact that the clip board wasn't found until days after the assassination.    No..... On the second thought the biggest flaw is the fact that the clip board means absolutely NOTHING!..        It merely means that Frankie Kaiser's clip board was discovered on the sixth floor ......   Beyond that, it an indication of NOTHING.

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« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2021, 07:00:57 PM »
Obviously you recognize that the statement above is nothing but here say ......  And you have clearly avoided the  the biggest flaw in the tale....The fact that the clip board wasn't found until days after the assassination.    No..... On the second thought the biggest flaw is the fact that the clip board means absolutely NOTHING!..        It merely means that Frankie Kaiser's clip board was discovered on the sixth floor ......   Beyond that, it an indication of NOTHING.

How is it hearsay when the witness had direct knowledge of the facts that he described?  LOL.  Kaiser confirmed he made this clipboard.
He could identify it as the one he made, in part, because his name was on it.  He knew that Oswald used this clipboard.  Why does it matter when it was found?  But if it does for some reason, maybe note that access to the building was restricted for some period of time after the assassination.  Kaiser was the only person in a position to link Oswald to the clipboard because he had direct knowledge of Oswald having used it. 

Kaiser's testimony does a lot more than confirm that "his" clipboard was on the 6th floor.  Kaiser confirms that Oswald was using this specific clipboard.  That clipboard contained invoices for 11.22.  Kaiser was not even at work on that day.  A simple matter to connect the dots.  This does not require a Ouija board.

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #79 on: August 09, 2021, 07:27:24 PM »
How is it hearsay when the witness had direct knowledge of the facts that he described?  LOL.  Kaiser confirmed he made this clipboard.
He could identify it as the one he made, in part, because his name was on it.  He knew that Oswald used this clipboard.  Why does it matter when it was found?  But if it does for some reason, maybe note that access to the building was restricted for some period of time after the assassination.  Kaiser was the only person in a position to link Oswald to the clipboard because he had direct knowledge of Oswald having used it. 

Kaiser's testimony does a lot more than confirm that "his" clipboard was on the 6th floor.  Kaiser confirms that Oswald was using this specific clipboard.  That clipboard contained invoices for 11.22.  Kaiser was not even at work on that day.  A simple matter to connect the dots.  This does not require a Ouija board.



Question for you Smart guy......  Has it been established that nobody other than Lee Oswald could have placed that clipboard where it was found.      IOW.....  Do you have solid PROOF that Lee Oswald was the only person  who could have placed that clip board there??

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #79 on: August 09, 2021, 07:27:24 PM »