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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2021, 02:27:30 AM »
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What I like about the last ‘postcard’ is that it shows pretty clearly how one doesn’t have to use the scope to aim the rifle. The iron sights work fine, even with the scope still mounted. No need to remove the scope. And, with the scope left mounted, the rifle looks more like the tool of a dangerous assassin.

I remember some poster here claimed that using the iron sights with the scope mounted would be too awkward.

Having the scope right in front of an open eye to make a shot using the scope? Not a problem.

Having the scope right in front of the lower forehead to make a shot using the iron sights? Even less of a problem.

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2021, 02:39:36 AM »
Yes, the FBI and Dallas Police and Secret Service and others joined up with waitresses and steamfitters and cab drivers and warehouse workers - all of this orchestrated by the nefarious "they" and "them"  - to murder the president in broad daylight in the middle of the street with hundreds of people watching - some with cameras and frame an innocent man.

Then some of the most distinguished men in America, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, all agreed to cover all of this up. For more than half a century.

Why would they do this? Well, Vietnam or civil rights or oil depletion allowance or something.

But the real concern is the psychological well-being of the people who don't believe this? Sorry, no.



 And of course the essence of truths is captured in the minds of the cultured They never explicitly told me that was the go to oracle of such things in terms of the cold objective reality in logic class and such places It might have been a good hiding place since I know I would have never considering looking to the minds of these persons for such revelations, so well done in terms of stealth suprise attack The unexpected diversion from examining the behavior of others and instead endorsing the proclamations of the entrenched based on their position in a hierarchy instead of open questioning is a bit of investigative straight jacket for some us


   The chain of custody and provenance of evidence is a great example of how question and possible investigatory avenues are shut down by an argument that insists certain supposedly fundamental facts are beyond reproach One can claim this more questions approach opens the door for some endless regression of tinier and fainter concern But it seems quite reasonable set  of baseline criteria for chain of custody and the provenience of evidence concerns
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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2021, 03:42:19 AM »
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But the real concern is the psychological well-being of the people who don't believe this? Sorry, no.


   Am I wrong in saying the claim is to know the minds of others?
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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2021, 04:47:10 AM »
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Yes, the FBI and Dallas Police and Secret Service and others joined up with waitresses and steamfitters and cab drivers and warehouse workers - all of this orchestrated by the nefarious "they" and "them"  - to murder the president in broad daylight in the middle of the street with hundreds of people watching - some with cameras and frame an innocent man.


 The extent of individuals listed here as being necessarily involved in a giant conspiracy theory seems a little enthusiastic I am not aware of any pivotal role of waitresses, steamfitters, cab drivers or warehouse workers It is almost a conspiracy in itself to draw such an unsupported premise of the the requirement for this conspiracy  And then the'they and them thing, there have been they and thems that turned out to actually be real people behind real  operations and deceptions for as long as people have speculated what others might be up to. Is it your position that any use of they and them  is always problematic? If you have ballistic evidence of two shooters for a victim then you know two people were involved, you can refer to them as they can't you? So i would be curious if you believe there should be no such kind of speculations about what others are doing or whether the usage of they and them is just poor semantics once one enters the realm of these type of speculations
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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2021, 05:56:09 AM »
What I like about the last ‘postcard’ is that it shows pretty clearly how one doesn’t have to use the scope to aim the rifle. The iron sights work fine, even with the scope still mounted. No need to remove the scope. And, with the scope left mounted, the rifle looks more like the tool of a dangerous assassin.

I remember some poster here claimed that using the iron sights with the scope mounted would be too awkward.

Having the scope right in front of an open eye to make a shot using the scope? Not a problem.

Having the scope right in front of the lower forehead to make a shot using the iron sights? Even less of a problem.

Easy as pie. Piece of cake.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2021, 08:47:25 AM »
  And, with the scope left mounted, the rifle looks more like the tool of a dangerous assassin.
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the tool of a dangerous assassin
As opposed to being only just a really nice guy assassin?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #70 on: August 13, 2021, 06:50:13 PM »
As opposed to being only just a really nice guy assassin?

"with the scope left mounted, the rifle looks more like the tool of a dangerous assassin."

Yes that's the reason the DPD detective held the " deadly accurate rifle" up so the whole wide world could see it...

And reporters then reported about the deadly accuracy of the rifle because it had that scope.    What we didn't know was the FACT that the scope was a cheap piece of junk and it had been hastily mounted on the rifle and was mounted askew and the user couldn't have hit a 10 inch target at 50 yards bt aimimg the rifle with that scope.

The conspirators knew that most viewers were totally ignorant about rifles and scopes and they knew that the general public were suckers for colorful rhetoric....thus the general public would suck up the BS, like a thirsty camel sucks up water. 

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #71 on: August 13, 2021, 08:13:32 PM »
Yes, Oswald writes a letter instructing Marina on what she should do in case he is arrested or killed.  Comes home and tells her that he just shot Gen. Walker.

Well, look who's selectively just accepting something Marina said as fact.  How cute.

Marina Oswald Porter's Statements of a Contradictory Nature

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  Has recon photos of Walker's home.

How do you know they were his?

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #71 on: August 13, 2021, 08:13:32 PM »