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Online David Von Pein

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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2021, 12:34:50 AM »
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Is it possible that an individual who believes in a massive conspiracy in the JFKA can also be considered the world's leading authority on the event? I speak of Jim DiEugenio. I’ve had enough arguments/debates with DiEugenio over the years to recognize one fact: he doesn’t have a layman’s knowledge of the actual event. Why exactly is this individual lionized throughout the CT community?

I've been asking that last question for eight years now....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-81.html#The-Stupid-Things-James-DiEugenio-Believes

"How anyone can possibly even begin to take DiEugenio seriously when it comes to the JFK assassination
is a real mystery to me. .... And yet despite the above laundry list of silliness, James DiEugenio is still held
in high esteem by many people when it comes to his evaluation of the evidence and his assessment of the facts
concerning the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Unbelievable."
-- David Von Pein; January 2013
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2021, 04:04:54 AM »
Moreover, Curry's statement is dead wrong. And Curry (by 1969) had to know it was dead wrong.

Why is it wrong?

Answer: Howard L. Brennan.

Now, Curry might argue that Brennan's positive IDing of Oswald as the sixth-floor sniper came too late (it came during Brennan's '64 WC testimony), but the fact remains: There is most definitely a person who put Oswald in the TSBD with a rifle in his hands---and that person is Howard Brennan.
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\You are a liar, Mr VP..... Howard Brennan DID NOT see Lee Oswald in the TSBD with a rifle in his hands.....Brennan saw a 165 pound man, who was dressed entirely differently that Lee was dressed at that time....    Brennan said the 165 pound man ( Lee 135 pounds)  was wearing Khaki colored clothing ( both shirt and trousers)  Lee was wearing a dark brown shirt and dark gray trousers.

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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2021, 05:57:18 AM »


(The small insets are from pictures of Oswald's shirt. View from where Brennan stood; not how cropped or close-to his view was.)

Oswald's shirt looked khaki when sun-struck.

Pretty hard to gauge weight and height when you're witnessing such a traumatic thing and the subject is in a window.

Very nice graphic and if you don't mind I have added it to my collection.
Previously in response to Walt's regularly repeated claim that Oswald's shirt was too dark compared to Brannan's description, I've posted the following photo highlighting the fact that Oswald's shirt when in direct sunlight is a much lighter shade and especially when Oswald was in the Sniper's Net with his the sunlit shirt is being heavily contrasted by the relatively dark interior behind the boxes, but you know what they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Btw is Walt still claiming that the Flash photography of the internal 6th floor photos were taken at night?




Also worth considering is the following simple graphic showing how we perceive the shade of an object with contrasting backgrounds, the bar in the centre is a constant shade but when the same bar is displayed against a varying contrasted background the bar appears to be simultaneously light and dark. It still amazes me that because some of the witnesses who saw Oswald's jacket describe a slightly different lighter/darker grey/tan jacket, so that automatically makes Oswald innocent is naïve and incredibly short sighted.





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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2021, 04:23:40 PM »
Very nice graphic and if you don't mind I have added it to my collection.
Previously in response to Walt's regularly repeated claim that Oswald's shirt was too dark compared to Brannan's description, I've posted the following photo highlighting the fact that Oswald's shirt when in direct sunlight is a much lighter shade and especially when Oswald was in the Sniper's Net with his the sunlit shirt is being heavily contrasted by the relatively dark interior behind the boxes, but you know what they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Btw is Walt still claiming that the Flash photography of the internal 6th floor photos were taken at night?




Also worth considering is the following simple graphic showing how we perceive the shade of an object with contrasting backgrounds, the bar in the centre is a constant shade but when the same bar is displayed against a varying contrasted background the bar appears to be simultaneously light and dark. It still amazes me that because some of the witnesses who saw Oswald's jacket describe a slightly different lighter/darker grey/tan jacket, so that automatically makes Oswald innocent is naïve and incredibly short sighted.





JohnM

I've posted the following photo highlighting the fact that Oswald's shirt when in direct sunlight is a much lighter shade and especially when Oswald was in the Sniper's Net with his the sunlit shirt is being heavily contrasted by the relatively dark interior behind the boxes, but you know what they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Btw is Walt still claiming that the Flash photography of the internal 6th floor photos were taken at night?





So the shirt looks different.....  It should, because that's NOT the shirt that lee was wearing at the TSBD that morning.  He went to his room and changed his clothes at 1:pm, after leaving the TSBD.   Oh and BTW....You've omitted to mention that the trousers that Lee was wearing at the TSBD were ..... a dark gray ....    Not even close to KHAKI.....

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Is this possible?
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2021, 07:34:01 PM »
Don't see where that gets you. The shirt you claim Oswald was wearing was just as khaki in appearance.



Maybe 'Lil' Lee wore his shirt outside his trousers and Brennan thought it was the pants color.

BTW, you don't even trust photos that document the LN scenario, so why should anyone take your interpretation of LN testimony?



So you believe that this shirt is khaki colored??   Perhaps you should ask any old US soldier that served in the US Army during WWII or Korea.....     I'm very sure that they will inform you that the color khaki is a light yellowish tan... ( the uniforms were often called "suntans" )  Many law enforcement agencies, particularly sheriff's departments still wear uniforms that are khaki colored....   

And speaking of sheriff's departments, ....I've long thought that Howard Brennan saw a man STANDING and aiming a rifle from a sixth floor window, and that 175 pound man was dressed like a sheriff's deputy.   

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2021, 07:58:07 PM »
'Oswald had the neck of a fullback' -- Don DeLillo, 'Libre'


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A thick neck will add weight to an estimation
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2021, 09:30:49 PM »
Was Brennan speaking of khaki in the military uniform sense?

 


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Thanks for sharing the windmills of your mind. :D
What ??...Vietnam era?.... Lacked the balls to post a picture of a GI wearing his "suntans"....   The old timers in the group will surely notice your dishonesty.

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Re: Is this possible?
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2021, 10:17:01 PM »
Preponderance of evidence in totality along with consciousness of guilt. Damn strong circumstantial case that has stood the test of time for 58 years. There is no conspiracy argument that can say that.

"Consciousness of guilt" is a euphemism for "I think a guilty person would do that sort of thing".

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