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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #384 on: September 22, 2021, 09:22:13 PM »
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IF the LHO-on-Houston story has some basis in fact, then Mr Frazier may have encountered Mr Oswald there, got talking with him, told him he was leaving------------and agreed to give his friend a ride out of downtown

]IF the LHO-on-Houston story has some basis in fact,

I don't believe Frazier's tale.....   It's one of his latter day tales....And it's simply BS.

The fact that Mr Walt Cakebread doesn't believe X does not make X BS. Especially when Mr Cakebread believes plenty of things that are BS (e.g. Mr Oswald hid in the domino room shower!)

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #385 on: September 22, 2021, 09:30:16 PM »
The article was entitled "The roll call inside the TSBD never happened."

Yes------------and it makes a good case that the roll call that was to go down in JFK assassination lore never happened

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The claim is that there was no roll call, early or otherwise.

Where does it say that?

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #386 on: September 22, 2021, 09:52:41 PM »
Peggy Bigler Hawkins.

Yes, she was the wife of a man who worked as an agent for Allyn & Bacon (officer in the Depository building). She watched the parade from the street with several Depository women and must have entered the building sometime afterwards. So she seems to be included in those in the locked-down building

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I assume this is a list of TSBD employees left in the building after it was locked down (so Oswald's name shouldn't be there)
It is curious that the names of Gloria Calvery, Carol Reed, Karan Hicks and Karen Westbrook don't appear on the list.

Indeed!  Thumb1:
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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #387 on: September 22, 2021, 09:57:57 PM »
Linnie Mae Randle.

Yes----------not an employee, and (as far as we know) nowhere near the building during any of the time in question. Sister, of course, of Mr Buell Wesley Frazier. What the heck is she doing on this list?

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Crossed out.

But also with a check mark beside her name

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Supporting role?

Cf?..............

Mr FRAZIER: They asked us to show our proper identification, and then they had us to write our name down and who to get in touch with if they wanted to see us.

Huh?

I continue to suspect that Mr Frazier got permission from Mr Shelley or Mr Truly to leave earlier than others (and prior to the police lockdown), citing his (hated!) stepfather's medical situation-------------but he did NOT go straight to the hospital. Hence the wild discrepancy between his own time estimate for his arrest (ca. 2 pm) and the actual time (ca.6.30 pm). There are missing HOURS here, and they need 'splainin'!
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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #388 on: September 22, 2021, 10:25:30 PM »
The fact that Mr Walt Cakebread doesn't believe X does not make X BS. Especially when Mr Cakebread believes plenty of things that are BS (e.g. Mr Oswald hid in the domino room shower!)

Mr Cakebread believes plenty of things that are BS (e.g. Mr Oswald hid in the domino room shower!) 

Do you have information that proves that Lee didn't step out of sight by ducking into the shower when Jarman and Norman passed by?....    Lee didn't want to be seen at that time and he didn't know if Jarman and Norman might enter the Domino room.....

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #389 on: September 22, 2021, 10:30:18 PM »
Mr Cakebread believes plenty of things that are BS (e.g. Mr Oswald hid in the domino room shower!) 

Do you have information that proves that Lee didn't step out of sight by ducking into the shower when Jarman and Norman passed by?....

Do you have information that proves that Mr Oswald wasn't canoodling with Mr Jack Dougherty when Messrs Jarman and Norman passed by?.... Mr Oswald didn't want to be seen at that time and he didn't know if Messrs Jarman and Norman might enter the Domino room.....

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #390 on: September 22, 2021, 10:33:17 PM »
Yes----------not an employee, and (as far as we know) nowhere near the building during any of the time in question. Sister, of course, of Mr Buell Wesley Frazier. What the heck is she doing on this list?

But also with a check mark beside her name

Cf?..............

Mr FRAZIER: They asked us to show our proper identification, and then they had us to write our name down and who to get in touch with if they wanted to see us.

Huh?

I continue to suspect that Mr Frazier got permission from Mr Shelley or Mr Truly to leave earlier than others (and prior to the police lockdown), citing his (hated!) stepfather's medical situation-------------but he did NOT go straight to the hospital. Hence the wild discrepancy between his own time estimate for his arrest (ca. 2 pm) and the actual time (ca.6.30 pm). There are missing HOURS here, and they need 'splainin'!

he did NOT go straight to the hospital. Hence the wild discrepancy between his own time estimate for his arrest (ca. 2 pm) and the actual time (ca.6.30 pm)

I sincerely wish hat you could verify this, Mr Ford..  I believe that he went home prior to going to the hospital, but I have no way of verifying my belief....

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #391 on: September 22, 2021, 10:57:21 PM »
Do you have information that proves that Mr Oswald wasn't canoodling with Mr Jack Dougherty when Messrs Jarman and Norman passed by?.... Mr Oswald didn't want to be seen at that time and he didn't know if Messrs Jarman and Norman might enter the Domino room.....

What's "canoodling"?.... The closest I can come with my old dictionary is " can opener" and yes, there was a  toilet next to the Domino room but I don't think it required any special opener that Jack Dougherty might have had....

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #391 on: September 22, 2021, 10:57:21 PM »