Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

[Walt Cakebread]

Yeah Walt, there is some doubt.
When Truly goes up to tell Fritz Oswald is missing he finds him near the elevator on the 6th floor which suggests the rifle has already been found. this is the best part of an hour after the assassination.
Somewhere in all the testimonies there is a detail that nails how soon Truly has decided to throw Oswald under the bus but I can't find it...yet.

The rifle was found by Deputy Boone a Seymour Weitzman, at 1:22 where it had been carefully hidden beneath a pallet of books,   

Simply because Fritz was near the elevator does not necessarily indicate that the rifle had been found at the time that Truly lied to Fritz and told him that Lee Harvey Oswald was the only man missing.   We simply don't know WHEN Roy truly sicked the rabid dogs on Lee Oswald.....

I recall that some researcher studied this aspect very carefully and was able to determine that Truly chased down Captain Fitz and reported Lee missing immediately after Fritz's  arrival at the TSBD.....   

I'll see if I can find that researcher's name...... 

[Richard Smith]

Man-- you are so losing it. When the police come and get you and they take you to their place of employment and sit you down and grill you over a like open fire for a long long time...that is definitely under arrest buddy!
Oh and you said "maybe"? Admission that there was sorted chance that Oswald did not take a gun to work after all? LOL

Witnesses often are taken or go to the police station for questioning.  Dozens were questioned along with Frazier.  That's how an investigation is conducted.  Frazier went home afterward unlike someone who is arrested for a crime.  He was a material witness.  Frazier may not have liked how he was treated but he was not charged or put in a jail cell under arrest.  He was questioned.  That can lead to an arrest but the mere fact that he was brought to the police station doesn't necessarily mean he was under arrest.  Did he protest or ask not to be taken there?  He appears to have gone voluntarily which would be understandable thing to do since he was innocent of any crime expect perhaps not being very perceptive.

[Walt Cakebread]

David ?

https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-767.html

Why was Whaley quoted on the day of the assassination, talking about his passenger log being in "15 minute increments," unless he, himself, had already had to defend it as supporting his claim Oswald had been his passenger?

Whaley's WC testimony, months later...

https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/whaley1.htm

"...Mr. BALL. Now, what happened after that, will you tell us in your own words what he did?
Mr. WHALEY. Well, on this which was the 14th trip when I picked up at the Greyhound I marked it 12:30 to 12:45.
Mr. BALL. You say that can be off 15 minutes?
Mr. WHALEY. That can be off either direction.
Mr. BALL. Anything up to 15 minutes, you say?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir; I wrote that trip up the same time I wrote the one up from the Continental bus station to the Greyhound, I marked this 12:15 to 12:30 and started 12:30 to 12:45. And the next one starts at 1:15 to 1:30 and it goes on all day long every 15 minutes the time keeps pretty approximate.
Mr. BALL. Let's take the 12:30 trip, tell me about that, what the passenger said.
Mr. WHALEY. He said, "May I have the cab?"..."

Could Mr Ball do simple arithmetic ??

Mr. BALL. You say that can be off 15 minutes?
Mr. WHALEY. That can be off either direction.
Mr. BALL. Anything up to 15 minutes, you say?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir;

15 minutes on either side of 12:30 equals a half hour....

So Whaley could have picked up the young man who was wearing a BLUE  UNIFORM as early as 12:15 ...or as late as 12:45....

[Alan Ford]

Witnesses often are taken or go to the police station for questioning.  Dozens were questioned along with Frazier.  That's how an investigation is conducted.  Frazier went home afterward unlike someone who is arrested for a crime.  He was a material witness.  Frazier may not have liked how he was treated but he was not charged or put in a jail cell under arrest.  He was questioned.  That can lead to an arrest but the mere fact that he was brought to the police station doesn't necessarily mean he was under arrest.  Did he protest or ask not to be taken there?  He appears to have gone voluntarily which would be understandable thing to do since he was innocent of any crime expect perhaps not being very perceptive.

He was arrested at the hospital. Read the reports, Mr Smith!

[Jerry Freeman]

Witnesses often are taken or go to the police station for questioning.

Witnesses? Yeah they do in the old '40s and '50s movies but in reality.. interviews are most often done at businesses and homes.
Frazier's charge of accessory to murder was dismissed.

[Alan Ford]

There is nothing in the article that "-refers to THE roll call that supposedly identified Mr Oswald as uniquely and suspiciously missing ~1 pm. That never happened."
You have simply made this up (as per usual)

Nope-----------you have misread the title of the article,as well as its central claim, and proceeded on the basis of that misapprehension to pick a fight with a strawman

[Walt Cakebread]

He was arrested at the hospital. Read the reports, Mr Smith!

At What time was BWF arrested?

[Walt Cakebread]

I have been debating with Alan J. about Oswald's short bus trip and Otto also wants to engage me on Whaley's time line and it seems to me that the CT's in their overzealousness to prove everything a fabrication that they are overlooking the fact that Oswald using public transport or private commercial transportation as opposed to what can only amount to a getaway car doesn't advance their conspiracy even one bit. Alan J. wants me to believe that Oswald exiting Dealey Plaza via public-transportation was manufactured and thus for reasons known only to himself, somehow is evidence of a conspiracy but what is the alternative?

"The reason why the bus trip to nowhere was invented was for the following reason: to plant  manufactured "evidence", a bus-transfer to imply the wrongly-accused left Dealey Plaza via public-transportation."
What part of that answer don't you understand, Mr. Mytton?
Alan J. Ford.

We know Oswald was at the Depository at about 12:33 and at the Texas Theatre a little over an hour later and if Oswald didn't use publicly available transport to get to the general vicinity of the theatre then how the heck did he get there? The following response of mine is based on what was a commonly held CT belief that Roger Craig saw Oswald running from the Depository and as I indicate the timing of this encounter strongly suggests Oswald being involved.

"The evidence that may lead to some sort of alternate method of conveyance is Roger Craig's testimony that about 14 to 15 minutes after the first shot he observed what he believes was Oswald running toward a station wagon being driven by a very dark complected man but unfortunately for the Oswald defenders this opens a serious new can of worms. According to Truly, Oswald's lunch break was between 12:00 to 12:45, meaning that unless this meeting was pure coincidence then this rendezvous was prearranged for the very end of Oswald's lunch break and how could Oswald possibly know beforehand that the President would be shot and thereafter work would be abandoned, unless he was involved?"
JohnM

Mr. BELIN - Now, about how many minutes was this after the time that you had turned that young couple over to Lemmy Lewis that you heard this whistle?
Mr. CRAIG - Fourteen or 15 minutes.
Mr. BELIN - Fourteen or 15 minutes?
Mr. CRAIG - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Was this, you mean, after the shooting?
Mr. CRAIG - After the---from the time I heard the first shot.
Mr. BELIN - All right. Your heard someone whistle?
Mr. CRAIG - Yes. So I turned and--uh-saw a man start to run down the hill on the north side of Elm Street, running down toward Elm Street.

After Alan J.'s seeming disinterest in my Roger Craig analysis, I presented the following post which explains the possible repercussions of the alternative to using Public Transport.

"So you believe that Oswald didn't use public transport to leave Dallas, interesting, then the only other alternatives that I see are that Oswald walked/jogged/ran/sprinted which is all highly unlikely or Oswald drove himself and without owning a car that's pretty difficult, or the point I raised which you haven't yet had the courage to confront because you must realize it's devastating significance, is that Oswald used an accomplice's getaway car to get himself and this unidentified accomplice away from the scene of the crime, an accomplice who just dumped Oswald off at the Texas Theatre, are you sure you want to pursue this particular narrative because it flies in the face of your claim that Oswald was wrongly accused?"
JohnM

I am open to any other plausible explanation of how Oswald got to the Theatre, and if not innocently by public transport then how?

EDIT I was going to put a clause into this OP but I thought I made it clear that we have had enough discussion in the CT's belief that the bus and cab rides didn't take place because this continual denial doesn't answer the question of how Oswald got to the Texas Theatre. If you want to debate Bledsoe, McWatter's or Whaley and ask endless questions then make your own thread but if you want to move forward and confront what denying the usage of public transport actually means and where it leads then please make a contribution otherwise please don't participate.

JohnM

I am open to any other plausible explanation of how Oswald got to the Theatre, and if not innocently by public transport then how?
Johnny, You opened this discussion and then tucked yer tail and crawled away.

The written reports of those who were present at the interrogation of Lee Oswald said that Lee told Captain Fritz that he had ridden in busses and a CITY cab to travel from the TSBD to the Texas Theater.   

However the taxi that Lee hired to transport him from the Greyhound taxi stand to the rooming house at 1026 N. Beckley was NOT William Whaley's taxi......