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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #104 on: October 04, 2021, 07:11:27 PM »
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Sirhan is in prison.  He needs to appear to be sympathetic to ever get out.  He is not going to tell the truth and say that he is an anti-Semitic terrorist who targeted RFK for assassination due to his support of Israel. 

Sirhan has never denied his views about the Middle East where he was born.

In fact, initially, some Arab groups wanted Sirhan to embrace the Palestinian cause in terms of his motive in order to bring more attention to the plight of Palestinians. Very little attention was paid to the Palestinians in the US in the 1960s.

The ONLY logical explanation for him lying by saying "he doesn't remember anything" is because it protects potential co-conspirators. He doesn't have to answer questions about that if he maintains that he doesn't remember anything.

But I believe he sincerely doesn't remember because he most likely was drugged and/or under hypnosis at the time of the shooting.


He is trying to get out.  Not add time to his sentence.  This is a trick as old as the hills.  Prisoners claim to get religion, can't remember what happened, were under the influence of drugs or alcohol.  It's a way to deflect responsibility for the underlying criminal act.

Can you cite other examples of prisoners saying they don't remember committing the crime while pleading Guilty to the crime?

I'd find your argument more convincing if Sirhan plead not Guilty. 
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #105 on: October 10, 2021, 02:35:52 AM »
 
No. He was told to plead guilty by his attorney.
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Despite the fact that Sirhan admitted his guilt in a recorded confession while in police custody on June 9, a lengthy, publicized trial followed in The People of the State of California v. Sirhan Sirhan. The judge did not accept his confession and denied his request to withdraw his plea of "not guilty" in order to plead "guilty".[22]

On February 10, 1969, Sirhan's lawyers made a motion in chambers to enter a plea of guilty to first-degree murder in exchange for life imprisonment rather than the death penalty. Sirhan told Judge Herbert V. Walker that he wanted to withdraw his original plea of not guilty in order to plead guilty as charged on all counts. He also asked that his counsel "dissociate themselves from this case completely." The judge asked him what he wanted to do about sentencing, and Sirhan replied, "I will ask to be executed."[22] Walker denied the motion and said, "This court will not accept the plea." He also denied Sirhan's request for his counsel to withdraw; his counsel entered another motion to withdraw from the case of their own volition, but Walker denied that as well.[22] Walker subsequently ordered that the record be sealed pertaining to the motion.[23]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan#Prosecution

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #106 on: October 11, 2021, 03:11:27 PM »
Sirhan is in prison.  He needs to appear to be sympathetic to ever get out.  He is not going to tell the truth and say that he is an anti-Semitic terrorist who targeted RFK for assassination due to his support of Israel.  He is trying to get out.  Not add time to his sentence.  This is a trick as old as the hills.  Prisoners claim to get religion, can't remember what happened, were under the influence of drugs or alcohol.  It's a way to deflect responsibility for the underlying criminal act.

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #107 on: January 14, 2022, 12:02:06 AM »
At least Newsom did one thing right:

"California Gov. Gavin Newsom denied parole Thursday for Sen. Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan."

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #108 on: January 14, 2022, 12:08:15 AM »
At least Newsom did one thing right:

"California Gov. Gavin Newsom denied parole Thursday for Sen. Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan."

Apparently Newsome is okay with paroling murderers of disabled people...

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has allowed the parole release of a killer who served four decades in prison for the murder of a developmentally disabled man who was buried alive

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-08-09/parole-allowed-for-man-who-buried-california-victim-alive


but thinks a 77 year old man is too dangerous to be paroled.

His decision on Sirhan was obviously influenced by his political ambitions, not legit concerns about Sirhan.

Hopefully the CA courts over-rule Newsome's decision...
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #109 on: January 19, 2022, 01:58:48 AM »
At least Newsom did one thing right:
"California Gov. Gavin Newsom denied parole Thursday for Sen. Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan."
Is there link to that?
I would have thought that a parole board decides this [though...usually the governor can grant a pardon to someone if so inclined--or paid off] :-\

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« Reply #110 on: January 19, 2022, 02:23:15 AM »
This is simple.   There is no credible evidence of a conspiracy in the JFK and RFK assassinations.  Thus, no conspiracy.   It's the evidence that governs the conclusion.
That is simple huh? Maybe to a Bugliosist. Regarding the JFK case...In Dallas, the conclusion cart came before the horse. Then the FBI put two horses behind the cart to push it along. Then the Commission put another horse in there to push the other two horses...to add to their struggle, the HSCA added an additional horse to the side of the cart and so on ::)
In the RFK case I am also skeptical of the L. A. police who didn't protect him.

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« Reply #111 on: January 19, 2022, 02:37:46 AM »
That is simple huh? Maybe to a Bugliosist. Regarding the JFK case...In Dallas, the conclusion cart came before the horse. Then the FBI put two horses behind the cart to push it along. Then the Commission put another horse in there to push the other two horses...to add to their struggle, the HSCA added an additional horse to the side of the cart and so on ::)
In the RFK case I am also skeptical of the L. A. police who didn't protect him.

FWIW, Vincent Bugliosi, former LA Prosecutor, said he saw evidence of conspiracy in RFK's assassination. The contrast between his views on RFK vs JFK assassinations seemed odd but I will admit that there seems to be more solid evidence of conspiracy in the RFK case.

https://www.oklahoman.com/article/1964607/sirhan-didnt-act-alone-author-claims

"Vincent Bugliosi, prosecutor in the Charles Manson murder trials and author of the Manson cult expose, "Helter Skelter," told an audience at the University of Tulsa there is "conclusive evidence" to indicate that more than one gunman was involved in the assassination of Robert Kennedy."

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« Reply #111 on: January 19, 2022, 02:37:46 AM »