Oswald: No power lunch

[Bill Chapman]

BILL CHAPMAN

[Steve M. Galbraith]

BILL CHAPMAN

In the London "trial" of Oswald,  Buell Frazier testified that Oswald walked to the kitchen window and stared at his sister until she called out to her brother that there was a strange man outside. "Who is that?" she said. Frazier said it was Lee Oswald the man who worked with him. She had never seen him before.

Frazier continued: "That was the first time he had ever done that. He never came up to our house before." Before then Frazier had gotten into his car and drove to the Paine's house where Oswald would come out and get into the car.

But not that November day.

[Jon Banks]

According to the FBI agents present during the interrogation, Oswald didn’t actually say he ate lunch with James Jarman:

"On November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated possibly one of these employees was called "Junior" and the other was a short individual whose name he could not recall but whom he would be able to recognize." (WR622)

Don Thomas:

In fact, during their Warren Commission testimony, Junior Jarman and Harold Norman separately confirmed that they had "walked through" the first floor lounge, known as the domino room, to retrieve their sandwiches, thus independently corroborating Oswald's account. Significantly, Harold Norman testified that usually some of the employees, including himself, would play dominos in this room during the lunch hour, but on this particular day, because of the pending passage of the Presidential motorcade, no one was playing dominos (3WH189). When asked if anyone else was in the domino room, Norman, who did eat his sandwich in the lounge before joining his friends to watch the motorcade, responded that in fact somebody else was present, but he could not remember who it was (3WH189). Hence Oswald had somehow correctly guessed not only the people who had been in the lunchroom that day, but their actions, even though they were different from the usual.

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Rewriting_History_-_Bugliosi_Parses_the_Testimony.html

[Walt Cakebread]

According to the FBI agents present during the interrogation, Oswald didn’t actually say he ate lunch with James Jarman:

"On November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated possibly one of these employees was called "Junior" and the other was a short individual whose name he could not recall but whom he would be able to recognize." (WR622)

Don Thomas:

In fact, during their Warren Commission testimony, Junior Jarman and Harold Norman separately confirmed that they had "walked through" the first floor lounge, known as the domino room, to retrieve their sandwiches, thus independently corroborating Oswald's account. Significantly, Harold Norman testified that usually some of the employees, including himself, would play dominos in this room during the lunch hour, but on this particular day, because of the pending passage of the Presidential motorcade, no one was playing dominos (3WH189). When asked if anyone else was in the domino room, Norman, who did eat his sandwich in the lounge before joining his friends to watch the motorcade, responded that in fact somebody else was present, but he could not remember who it was (3WH189). Hence Oswald had somehow correctly guessed not only the people who had been in the lunchroom that day, but their actions, even though they were different from the usual.

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Rewriting_History_-_Bugliosi_Parses_the_Testimony.html

Oswald had somehow correctly guessed not only the people who had been in the lunchroom that day, but their actions, even though they were different from the usual

What are the odds that Lee could have correctly guessed the identities of the people and their actions at about 12:26/ 12:27 ??

[Bill Chapman]

According to the FBI agents present during the interrogation, Oswald didn’t actually say he ate lunch with James Jarman:

"On November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated possibly one of these employees was called "Junior" and the other was a short individual whose name he could not recall but whom he would be able to recognize." (WR622)

Don Thomas:

In fact, during their Warren Commission testimony, Junior Jarman and Harold Norman separately confirmed that they had "walked through" the first floor lounge, known as the domino room, to retrieve their sandwiches, thus independently corroborating Oswald's account. Significantly, Harold Norman testified that usually some of the employees, including himself, would play dominos in this room during the lunch hour, but on this particular day, because of the pending passage of the Presidential motorcade, no one was playing dominos (3WH189). When asked if anyone else was in the domino room, Norman, who did eat his sandwich in the lounge before joining his friends to watch the motorcade, responded that in fact somebody else was present, but he could not remember who it was (3WH189). Hence Oswald had somehow correctly guessed not only the people who had been in the lunchroom that day, but their actions, even though they were different from the usual.

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Rewriting_History_-_Bugliosi_Parses_the_Testimony.html

James Jarman WC testimony
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/jarman.htm

Mr. BALL - After his arrest, he stated to a police officer that he had had lunch with you. Did you have lunch with him?
Mr. JARMAN - No, sir; I didn't.

[Jon Banks]

James Jarman WC testimony
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/jarman.htm

Mr. BALL - After his arrest, he stated to a police officer that he had had lunch with you. Did you have lunch with him?
Mr. JARMAN - No, sir; I didn't.

The interrogation wasn’t audio recorded so we don’t know exactly what Oswald said but the FBI’s description of Oswald’s statement about seeing Jarman walk through the lunch room makes more sense than Capt Will Fritz’s.

Can you imagine Oswald the loner having lunch with anyone?

The problem with the FBI version of what Oswald said is that it’s corroborated by Jarman and Norman who said they DID walk through the lunch room that day and saw someone sitting in there but couldn’t identify who it was.

See the FBI notes on the interrogation here - https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=946#relPageId=646

[Bill Chapman]

The interrogation wasn’t audio recorded so we don’t know exactly what Oswald said but the FBI’s description of Oswald’s statement about seeing Jarman walk through the lunch room makes more sense than Capt Will Fritz’s.

Can you imagine Oswald the loner having lunch with anyone?

Neither Jarman nor Norman confirmed that it was Oswald who was in the lunchroom at the time they came through to get their sandwiches: They couldn't remember.

Too bad every witness wasn't decked out with stop watches, tape recorders, photographic memories, unassailable honesty, and cameras.

[Jon Banks]

Neither Jarman nor Norman confirmed that it was Oswald who was in the lunchroom at the time they came through to get their sandwiches: They couldn't remember.

Too bad every witness wasn't decked out with stop watches, tape recorders, photographic memories, unassailable honesty, and cameras.

Correct.

Would you agree that it’s dishonest to ignore the contradictions between Fritz’s description of Oswald’s alibi compared to the description of the FBI agents who were present during the interrogation?

And how could Oswald have accurately guessed that Jarman walked through the lunch room with someone if he wasn’t there?