Oswald: No power lunch

[John Mytton]

It doesn't matter how far the window could open, the only thing that matters is how far the window was open on 11/22/63 and this evidence photo shows you exactly how far it was open on that day;



there is no way that anybody sitting on the window sill, could stick his head out of the window to look straight down.

As I understand it, the original window was removed six weeks after the assassination, by D.H. Byrd. The odds that your photo was taken after that are far greater than the photo being taken within those six weeks.

True, looking at the arch, it seems to be one of the 6th floor windows in the center of the building. But the photo is useful nevertheless as it clearly shows just how far Hill was hanging out the window. That's how far Oswald also would have to be hanging out of the window to see who was right beneath him on the sidewalk. I seriously doubt that you even remotely believe that actually happened!

Perhaps you need to take a step back and rethink this thing. A man who wants to assassinate the President, suddenly decides to draw attention to himself, at least 5 minutes prior to the arrival of the motorcade, by sticking his head out of the window and looking straight down to see who was on the sidewalk. Really? That makes sense to you?

It doesn't matter how far the window could open, the only thing that matters is how far the window was open on 11/22/63 and this evidence photo shows you exactly how far it was open on that day;

Does that mean you can't find evidence to support your claim? And your next claim that how far the window was open that day based on a photo taken after 12:30 on the 22nd is absurd on every level.

there is no way that anybody sitting on the window sill, could stick his head out of the window to look straight down.

C'mon Martin, that's just a silly attempt at refutation, even if the window was stuck at the height shown after 12:30 Oswald could have been sitting on the window sill with his torso on the outside of the window and considering Brennan said he could see Oswald from the hips up strongly suggests that Oswald wasn't being obscured behind a reflected sky and a dirty glass panel which makes seeing behind the glass difficult.

As I understand it, the original window was removed six weeks after the assassination, by D.H. Byrd. The odds that your photo was taken after that are far greater than the photo being taken within those six weeks.

Fair enough, the fact that they would be doing recreations so soon after the assassination could be seen as bad taste, so while not impossible I lean towards the photo being taken after 6 weeks.

True, looking at the arch, it seems to be one of the 6th floor windows in the center of the building.

Yep.

But the photo is useful nevertheless as it clearly shows just how far Hill was hanging out the window. That's how far Oswald also would have to be hanging out of the window to see who was right beneath him on the sidewalk. I seriously doubt that you even remotely believe that actually happened! 

Brennan says that when Oswald was sitting on the window sill was only one time Oswald came to the window alluding to the fact that Oswald came to the window more than once and Oswald could have easily emulated Gerald Hill's position, thanks for pointing that out how far someone could hang out.

Perhaps you need to take a step back and rethink this thing. A man who wants to assassinate the President, suddenly decides to draw attention to himself, at least 5 minutes prior to the arrival of the motorcade, by sticking his head out of the window and looking straight down to see who was on the sidewalk. Really? That makes sense to you?

Not at all, nobody could give two spombleprofglidnoctobunss about some random bloke in a random window checking out what's going on around him  before the assassination, in fact being barely visible while hiding in the shadows would be more suspect. But Oswald allegedly being seen with a rifle long before Kennedy's arrival, I do find a little brazen.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

I thought Oswald went to lunch at noon.



You just said it: "Around noon Mr Oswald breaks for lunch". But it should read "Around At noon Mr Oswald breaks went for lunch". Maybe he got a Coke on the way down, but he ought to arrive no later that 12:03-ish

But those in the Domino Room don't remember Oswald being there. And if Oswald brought a lunch, why did he lie about placing the bag it was in on the back seat of Frazier's car?

BTW, you know the "went to 2nd floor to get Coco Cola to eat with lunch" was to justify his presence in the Second Floor Lunchroom just after the assassination (Oswald was in flight and he ducked in there when he heard Truly and Baker coming up the stairs). And no one expects Oswald to be telling the officials what he really was doing during the assassination.

This yo-yo scenario you have Oswald doing is good for a laugh.

To fabricate an entire theory out of whole cloth is something that is a Ct standard, but Ford takes this concept to entirely new level, he takes the tiniest innocuous statement completely out of context and creates a vast conspiracy and along the way he will throw anyone and everyone under a bus who dares contradict any part of his latest fantasy, but God bless him because all he's accomplishing is irreparably damaging the entire conspiracy movement.

JohnM

[Walt Cakebread]

Does that mean you can't find evidence to support your claim? And your next claim that how far the window was open that day based on a photo taken after 12:30 on the 22nd is absurd on every level.

C'mon Martin, that's just a silly attempt at refutation, even if the window was stuck at the height shown after 12:30 Oswald could have been sitting on the window sill with his torso on the outside of the window and considering Brennan said he could see Oswald from the hips up strongly suggests that Oswald wasn't being obscured behind a reflected sky and a dirty glass panel which makes seeing behind the glass difficult.



Fair enough, the fact that they would be doing recreations so soon after the assassination could be seen as bad taste, so while not impossible I lean towards the photo being taken after 6 weeks.

Yep.

Brennan says that when Oswald was sitting on the window sill was only one time Oswald came to the window alluding to the fact that Oswald came to the window more than once and Oswald could have easily emulated Gerald Hill's position, thanks for pointing that out how far someone could hang out.

Not at all, nobody could give two spombleprofglidnoctobunss about some random bloke in a random window checking out what's going on around him  before the assassination, in fact being barely visible while hiding in the shadows would be more suspect. But Oswald allegedly being seen with a rifle long before Kennedy's arrival, I do find a little brazen.

JohnM

Notice the red rings in the windows of the TSBD.

[Martin Weidmann]

Does that mean you can't find evidence to support your claim? And your next claim that how far the window was open that day based on a photo taken after 12:30 on the 22nd is absurd on every level.

C'mon Martin, that's just a silly attempt at refutation, even if the window was stuck at the height shown after 12:30 Oswald could have been sitting on the window sill with his torso on the outside of the window and considering Brennan said he could see Oswald from the hips up strongly suggests that Oswald wasn't being obscured behind a reflected sky and a dirty glass panel which makes seeing behind the glass difficult.

Your opinions and "could have been" arguments mean nothing. There is not a shred of evidence for them

Oswald could have been sitting on the window sill with his torso on the outside of the window

You actually believe this? Really?... That's hilarious

But thank you for the photo, as it shows exactly that the window wasn't even halfway open. For anybody to stick their head and torso out (to look down to the sidewalk just below them, to see who was there - only minutes prior to the arrival of the motorcade, remember?) - would require that person to be on his knees to begin with. There is no way it can be done by somebody sitting on the window sill

Brennan says that when Oswald was sitting on the window sill was only one time Oswald came to the window alluding to the fact that Oswald came to the window more than once and Oswald could have easily emulated Gerald Hill's position, thanks for pointing that out how far someone could hang out.

Huh? What the hell are you trying to say here? Never mind... let me just ask you a simple question; Did Brennan or anybody else say they saw a man hanging out of the s/n window (in the same manner as Hill) some 5 minutes prior to the arrival of the motorcade? If the answer is no, all you have is another "could have" argument that goes nowhere.
 

Not at all, nobody could give two spombleprofglidnoctobunss about some random bloke in a random window checking out what's going on around him  before the assassination, in fact being barely visible while hiding in the shadows would be more suspect. But Oswald allegedly being seen with a rifle long before Kennedy's arrival, I do find a little brazen.

JohnM

You really need help

[John Mytton]

You really need help

 

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

JohnM

Denial is typical for those who actually need help. Stop trolling

[Dan O'meara]

What was Bonnie Ray Williams doing while Oswald was climbing out of the window?
If BRW was having his lunch next to the SN from 12:00 - 12:25pm when did Oswald get into position?
Maybe he was holding Oswald's belt with one hand while LHO leant out of the window and holding his half-eaten piece of chicken with the other hand.

[Mitch Todd]

Tête-à-tête, Mitch

Thank you for pointing that out. I'm afraid I have a congenital diacritical deficiency that I've had since birth. While I take supplements to combat the condition, sometimes I'm forced to write before they kick in. You will be happy to note that I've gone back and corrected the error.  I will now go back to doing something important and/or useful.