Oswald: No power lunch

[Dan O'meara]

No sign of Baker according to Molina, destroys any hope of Baker/Truly making it to the lunchroom in 90 seconds.....

Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Truly go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where were you when you saw him go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. I was right in the entrance.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a police officer with him?
Mr. MOLINA. I didn't see a police officer. I don't recall seeing a police officer but I did see him go inside.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a white-helmeted police officer any time there in the entrance?
Mr. MOLINA. Well, of course, there might have been one after they secured the building, you know.
Mr. BALL. No, I mean when Truly went in; did you see Truly actually go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. I saw him go in.
Mr. BALL. Where were you standing?
Mr. MOLINA. Right at the front door; right at the front door.
Mr. BALL. Outside the front door?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, outside the front door I was standing; the door was right behind me.
Mr. BALL. Were you standing on the steps?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, on the uppermost step.
Mr. BALL. You actually saw Truly go in?
Mr. MOLINA. Yeah.
Mr. BALL. You were still standing there?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. How long was it after you heard the shots?
Mr. MOLINA. Oh, I would venture to say maybe 20 or 30 seconds afterwards.
Mr. BALL. Had somebody come up and said the President was shot before
you saw Truly go in?
Mr. MOLINA. No.

BTW, Calvary arrived after Truly.....

Mr. BALL. Do you know a girl named Gloria Calvary?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did Gloria come up?
Ms.. MOLINA. Yes, she came. I was in the lobby standing there and she came in with this other girl.

Just because Joe Molina didn't see Baker go into the building doesn't mean anything. Molina could've been engaged in conversation with someone when Baker came up the steps.
There is actual film footage of Baker approaching the bottom of the steps.
Other witnesses do see Baker enter.
The only reason Truly goes back into the TSBD is to assist Baker.
It's safe to say Baker was already in the lobby asking people where the stairs were when Truly came up the steps.
Molina's statement only confirms the speed that Baker makes it to the lobby (20-30 seconds, something confirmed by the Darnell film)

BTW
Calvary was stood at the bottom of the steps when Truly ran up them.
She was telling Lovelady what had happened.
When she entered the building Molina had moved into the lobby.

[John Mytton]

JohnM

[Dan O'meara]

Just because Joe Molina didn't see Baker go into the building doesn't mean anything.

Of couse not -- LOL

Molina could've been engaged in conversation with someone when Baker came up the steps.

Sure, but Molina was right at the doors when Truly entered seconds later.

There is actual film footage of Baker approaching the bottom of the steps.

"approaching" -- LOL

Other witnesses do see Baker enter.

Names?

The only reason Truly goes back into the TSBD is to assist Baker.

First you need to show he actually was inside.

It's safe to say Baker was already in the lobby asking people where the stairs were when Truly came up the steps.

No, it's safe to say you made that up. Who were "people " in the lobby 15 seconds after shots?

Molina's statement only confirms the speed that Baker makes it to the lobby (20-30 seconds, something confirmed by the Darnell film)

No, you also made that up to fit your fantacy.

BTW
Calvary was stood at the bottom of the steps when Truly ran up them.

Oh, you have Calvary timed?

She was telling Lovelady what had happened.

OK, when did Lovelady say Baker/Truly entered?

When she entered the building Molina had moved into the lobby.

Right.

The usual sh*t but I'll make the points that need making.

"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"
FBI interview of Pauline Sanders
Sanders was also stood on the steps.
You should know all this but you don't.
It's the basics.

The Darnell film shows Baker approaching the steps of the TSBD.
All you could say to that was "approaching" -- LOL
But it does.
What do you have to say about that?

[Walt Cakebread]

The usual sh*t but I'll make the points that need making.

"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"
FBI interview of Pauline Sanders
Sanders was also stood on the steps.
You should know all this but you don't.
It's the basics.

The Darnell film shows Baker approaching the steps of the TSBD.
All you could say to that was "approaching" -- LOL
But it does.
What do you have to say about that?

"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"

I know that she didn't have a stop watch..... But TEN SECONDS?

Baker was on his motorcycle on Houston street near the intersection of Houston and Main at the time of the first shot....The shots cover a time span of about 6 seconds ..... so Baker would have had to have traveled about a block and jumped off his bike and ran into the TSBD in about 16 seconds from the sound of the first shot.....   I don't believe it!

[Dan O'meara]

"She said within a matter of ten seconds a uniform police officer in a white helmet ran into the building"

I know that she didn't have a stop watch..... But TEN SECONDS?

Baker was on his motorcycle on Houston street near the intersection of Houston and Main at the time of the first shot....The shots cover a time span of about 6 seconds ..... so Baker would have had to have traveled about a block and jumped off his bike and ran into the TSBD in about 16 seconds from the sound of the first shot.....   I don't believe it!

It's a guess.
She's emphasising the speed he arrived.
As you point out, she didn't have a stopwatch

[Walt Cakebread]

It's a guess.
She's emphasising the speed he arrived.
As you point out, she didn't have a stopwatch

I'm not looking for an argument..... But what would you calculate as a reasonable time span?

Perhaps 30 seconds from the sound of the first shot?   

[Dan O'meara]

I'm not looking for an argument..... But what would you calculate as a reasonable time span?

Perhaps 30 seconds from the sound of the first shot?

That seems reasonable

[Alan Ford]

And Fantasia Ford knows it was an assassination team vouched for by Truly.

And who does Mr O'Meara think was the man Officer Baker caught walking away from the rear stairway several floors up?

Fantasia Ford makes up a story about Baker not recognising Oswald and is corrected by actual evidence and can't take it.

~Grin~

The actual evidence----------Officer Baker's same-day affidavit, during the writing of which Mr Oswald was brought in in front of Officer Baker---------tells us that Officer Baker did not make any firm connection between the man caught walking away from the rear stairway and the suspect just brought in.

The fact that Officer Baker was not brought to a lineup only makes things worse for your silly claim! 

Only Fantasia Ford would require before-the-fact corroboration.

No, during-the-fact corroboration would do the trick-----------------if Officer Baker confidently identified the suspect just brought in as the man he caught walking away from the rear stairway, Det. Johnson would have made sure this all-important fact made it into the affidavit. At the very, very least, Officer Baker would have been brought to a lineup. None of this happened