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[Martin Weidmann]

Leftist apparently can't accept facts that don't fit their fantasy narrative.  It is simply a fact that many more Americans have died of COVID under Biden than under Trump.

Reuters: May 12, 2022
"President Joe Biden on Thursday commemorated the COVID-19 deaths of 1 million people in the United States, marking what he called "a tragic milestone" and urging Americans to "remain vigilant" during the ongoing pandemic." "Most of those deaths, some 600,000, happened after Biden took office in January 2021."


Keep in mind that was almost a year ago and another hundred thousand American deaths have occurred after this article.  So over 700K of the 1.1 million US deaths occurred under Ukraine Joe.  That's approximately 65% of the deaths under Old Joe with the Trump vaccine widely available.

Talk about misrepresenting the facts....

Just because Reuters writes it in an article doesn't make it a fact. But let's examine the entire article a bit closer;


From the same Reuters article;

Biden took office in January 2021 at the peak of a major wave of the disease.

He ran against Trump on a promise to take it more seriously, and he came into office with a plan to get Americans vaccinated and an attempt to show leadership on mask-wearing and mitigation efforts. But he faced an unexpectedly strong opposition to vaccine and mask mandates, led by Republicans, that turned public safety measures endorsed by disease experts into a political and legal battle in the United States. A conservative-dominated Supreme Court struck down his federal vaccine-or-test mandate for companies, and a Trump-appointed judge struck down his public transportation mask mandate


Grumpy seems to think that when Biden was sworn in he had to put a stop all existing cases of Covid instantly. The truth is of course that the majority of the people who died after the inauguration were already infected during the Trump era and even more died because of the Republicans' opposition to vaccine and mask mandates. The claim that more people died under Biden than under Trump is at best a pathetic oversimplication that does not represent the true facts correctly.

The real bottom line is that Trump botched the response and Biden had to deal with the consequences.

[Richard Smith]

Talk about misrepresenting the facts....

Just because Reuters writes it in an article doesn't make it a fact. But let's examine the entire article a bit closer;


From the same Reuters article;

Biden took office in January 2021 at the peak of a major wave of the disease.

He ran against Trump on a promise to take it more seriously, and he came into office with a plan to get Americans vaccinated and an attempt to show leadership on mask-wearing and mitigation efforts. But he faced an unexpectedly strong opposition to vaccine and mask mandates, led by Republicans, that turned public safety measures endorsed by disease experts into a political and legal battle in the United States. A conservative-dominated Supreme Court struck down his federal vaccine-or-test mandate for companies, and a Trump-appointed judge struck down his public transportation mask mandate


Grumpy seems to think that when Biden was sworn in he had to put a stop all existing cases of Covid instantly. The truth is of course that the majority of the people who died after the inauguration were already infected during the Trump era and even more died because of the Republicans' opposition to vaccine and mask mandates. The claim that more people died under Biden than under Trump is at best a pathetic oversimplication that does not represent the true facts correctly.

The real bottom line is that Trump botched the response and Biden had to deal with the consequences.

Caught in another lie.  Many more Americans have died from COVID under Biden than Trump exactly as I said.  And you falsely suggested otherwise either out of ignorance from leftist propaganda or dishonesty.  In addition, a hundred thousand more have died since that article was written.  So approximately 65% of American COVID deaths (2 in 3) have occurred under Biden.  It was Ukraine Joe who campaigned on shutting down the virus.  Take it up with him if you don't like the fact that he lied and politicized COVID to get elected.

[Richard Smith]

The citizens of PA remain without their elected representative in the US Senate as John Fetterman remains in the mental asylum "indefinitely" according to the most recent update. This is the guy who hid the severity of his illness during the campaign and then had his doctors lie about his ability to fulfill his responsibilities if elected.  He didn't even last a month.  Everyone wishes him well in recovery, but the fact remains that he was in no condition to become a senator.  His family should have intervened to spare his health.  Instead they lied and covered up and this is the result.

[Martin Weidmann]

Caught in another lie.  Many more Americans have died from COVID under Biden than Trump exactly as I said.  And you falsely suggested otherwise either out of ignorance from leftist propaganda or dishonesty.  In addition, a hundred thousand more have died since that article was written.  So approximately 65% of American COVID deaths (2 in 3) have occurred under Biden.  It was Ukraine Joe who campaigned on shutting down the virus.  Take it up with him if you don't like the fact that he lied and politicized COVID to get elected.

More dishonest fromy Grumpy, who simply refuses to accept the fact that the majority of people who died from Covid after Biden took over from Trump were already infected during Trump's term in office.
To blame those deaths on Biden is pathetic and typical right wing nonsense. A far more honest approach would be to look at how many people died under Biden that were indeed infected after his inauguration. But you will never get those number from Grumpy because they don't bode well for his false message.

The real numbers show that Biden kept his campaign promise!

[Richard Smith]

More dishonest from Crumpy, who simply refuses to accept the fact that the majority of people who died from Covid after Biden took over from Trump were already infected during Trump's term in office.
To blame those deaths on Biden is pathetic and typical right wing nonsense. A far more honest approach would be to look at how many people died under Biden that were indeed infected after his inauguration. But you will never get those number from Grumpy because they don't bode well for his false message.

The real numbers show that Biden kept his campaign promise!

I said more Americans died from COVID under Biden than Trump.  That is a demonstrable fact that you stupidly suggested wasn't true.  You were caught in an outright lie. I'm not sure why you are now babbling about infected people.  Even so more Americans have also been infected under Ukraine Joe than Trump.  Old Joe himself has been infected several times.  He did absolutely nothing to slow the spread of COVID.  He had no plan.  COVID ran its course as it was always going to do.  Almost everyone has had it now.

[Martin Weidmann]

I said more Americans died from COVID under Biden than Trump.  That is a demonstrable fact that you stupidly suggested wasn't true.  You were caught in an outright lie. I'm not sure why you are now babbling about infected people.  Even so more Americans have also been infected under Ukraine Joe than Trump.  Old Joe himself has been infected several times.  He did absolutely nothing to slow the spread of COVID.  He had no plan.  COVID ran its course as it was always going to do.  Almost everyone has had it now.

I said more Americans died from COVID under Biden than Trump. 

You say a great many things and most of them are taken out of context and never tell the true story.

He did absolutely nothing to slow the spread of COVID. He had no plan.

And still, it now is has been reduced to nothing more than a bad flue.... Go figure

[Richard Smith]

I said more Americans died from COVID under Biden than Trump. 

You say a great many things and most of them are taken out of context and never tell the true story.

He did absolutely nothing to slow the spread of COVID. He had no plan.

And still, it now is has been reduced to nothing more than a bad flue.... Go figure

What I said was very specific and 100% accurate.  There have been more American deaths from COVID under Ukraine Joe than Trump.  You took issue with that specific statement, and you were wrong as usual.   You started babbling about "infections" but, of course, there have also been more COVID infections under Old Joe than Trump.  Making that claim not only false but idiotic.  If COVID has been reduced to the "flu", it is because of the Trump vaccine.   Biden did absolutely nothing to slow the spread of the virus.  He himself got it several times.  It ran its course as Republicans said it would providing some natural immunity. 

[Martin Weidmann]

What I said was very specific and 100% accurate.  There have been more American deaths from COVID under Ukraine Joe than Trump.  You took issue with that specific statement, and you were wrong as usual.   You started babbling about "infections" but, of course, there have also been more COVID infections under Old Joe than Trump.  Making that claim not only false but idiotic.  If COVID has been reduced to the "flu", it is because of the Trump vaccine.   Biden did absolutely nothing to slow the spread of the virus.  He himself got it several times.  It ran its course as Republicans said it would providing some natural immunity.

What I said was very specific

As well as cherry picking and a misleading out of context misrepresentation of the facts.

But for you that's par for the course....

it is because of the Trump vaccine.

There never was a "Trump vaccine".