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[Richard Smith]

Over one million Americans dead from COVID and counting.  We were told by Fauci and the leftists that it didn't come from a lab and that it was a baseless conspiracy theory to even suggest.  In fact, you would be banned from social media for "disinformation" and called racist if you did so.  Fast forward to today, and we suddenly learn that the leftists always entertained the possibility of a lab leak.  Just like they apparently always entertained the possibility that Hunter's laptop wasn't the product of Russian disinformation.   Just because they said the exact opposite at the time and attributed any dissent to being racist or an insane conspiracy theorist is long forgotten. 

[Martin Weidmann]

Over one million Americans dead from COVID and counting.  We were told by Fauci and the leftists that it didn't come from a lab and that it was a baseless conspiracy theory to even suggest.  In fact, you would be banned from social media for "disinformation" and called racist if you did so.  Fast forward to today, and we suddenly learn that the leftists always entertained the possibility of a lab leak.  Just like they apparently always entertained the possibility that Hunter's laptop wasn't the product of Russian disinformation.   Just because they said the exact opposite at the time and attributed any dissent to being racist or an insane conspiracy theorist is long forgotten.

We were told by Fauci and the leftists that it didn't come from a lab

No we weren't. Why do you always have to make up stuff? They said from the beginning (under Trump, I might add) that there was no certainty where the virus came from. They wanted to investigate the lab in China, but the Chinese refused to cooperate.

that it was a baseless conspiracy theory to even suggest

At the time it was, because it was a claim for which there was no evidence either way. And there still isn't now. All the report says is that it is likely that the virus came from a Chinese lab. For reasonable people "likely" is hardly conclusive.

Fast forward to today, and we suddenly learn that the leftists always entertained the possibility of a lab leak. 

Wrong again. We don't learn that suddenly. Reasonable people have known that all along. it's only gullible cultists with an agenda who ignored it so they could have one more thing to complain about.

Just like they apparently always entertained the possibility that Hunter's laptop wasn't the product of Russian disinformation.

Democrats have always stated that the matter of Hunter Biden's laptop needed to be investigated and that one should wait for the outcome of that investigation before starting to make outrages claims. The message clearly never reached the right wingers or they simply ignored it.

But it seems that Grumpy is, yet again, completely unable to answer my questions. He calls it a conspiracy but can not say what exactly that conspiracy was/is and who was involved. It's duly noted...

The list of claims made by Richard that he can't substantiate is growing longer with every pathetic post he writes.

[Richard Smith]

Fauci: "No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab."

[Richard Smith]

No leftist revisionist history is required.  The media and Fauci implied for years that it was a racist conspiracy theory to suggest that COVID originated in a lab.  They banned and/or chastised posters on social media who suggested that the virus originated in a lab as "disinformation" or "racist."  They didn't take a neutral approach that there was a lack of evidence either way and it was an issue in doubt.  They viciously attacked anyone who expressed any doubt that it was naturally occurring. 

[Martin Weidmann]

Fauci: "No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab."

He was correct when he said it. There was no evidence because the Chinese did not cooperate. So what exactly is your problem.

No leftist revisionist history is required.  The media and Fauci implied for years that it was a racist conspiracy theory to suggest that COVID originated in a lab.  They banned and/or chastised posters on social media who suggested that the virus originated in a lab as "disinformation" or "racist."  They didn't take a neutral approach that there was a lack of evidence either way and it was an issue in doubt.  They viciously attacked anyone who expressed any doubt that it was naturally occurring. 

I'm not sure where you get the "racist" BS from, but it was indeed (and still is) a conspiracy theory to claim, without evidence, that one particular scenario was true, when nobody could and still can't prove it was/is indeed true. Spreading claims without evidence to back it up can indeed be and justly was considered disinformation.

There is more revisionism in this post than anything coming from the left. It is one thing to "express doubt" about something. It's something else entirely to claim that something did happen without being able to prove it. The last thing they needed in a pandemic was idiots making all sorts of wild claims to make the population, or at least part of it, feel insecure. That's what happened here!

[Richard Smith]

What a fascinating fantasy world the leftists must live in.  Fauci and company contended that there is no evidence it came from a lab.  Fauci was supposed to know the evidence.  He claimed to be the science.  That was his entire job. They treated the lab theory as the product of disinformation to the point of censoring social media posts to that effect.  Left wing pundits mocked Trump and any dissenter who would even dare suggest that it was possible that it came from a Chinese lab.  It was deemed racist to link it to China.  Did they treat theories that it was naturally occurring and originated in a Wuhan market the same way even though there was zero evidence of such?  Of course not.  This was a case of promoting one theory and trying to bury any other theories.  They tried to suppress the evidence relating to the lab.  Why?

The leftist narrative had to be that the pandemic was Trump's fault.  Not China.  They couldn't allow that blame to be deflected to China.  So it couldn't have originated in a lab.  It had to be an act of nature that the Chinese couldn't control.  And then Trump was at fault for botching the response (albeit in some unspecified way since many more Americans died under Ukraine Joe with the vaccine than under Trump without it until the very end of his administration). The leftist hated Trump so much they were willing to politicize and falsify the origins of COVID to put the blame on Trump.  Fauci was also caught with his hands in the cookie jar by being party to the activities of that lab.  Millions died as a result of such disinformation with no consequences.   

[Martin Weidmann]

What a fascinating fantasy world the leftists must live in.  Fauci and company contended that there is no evidence it came from a lab.  Fauci was supposed to know the evidence.  He claimed to be the science.  That was his entire job. They treated the lab theory as the product of disinformation to the point of censoring social media posts to that effect.  Left wing pundits mocked Trump and any dissenter who would even dare suggest that it was possible that it came from a Chinese lab.  It was deemed racist to link it to China.  Did they treat theories that it was naturally occurring and originated in a Wuhan market the same way even though there was zero evidence of such?  Of course not.  This was a case of promoting one theory and trying to bury any other theories.  They tried to suppress the evidence relating to the lab.  Why?

The leftist narrative had to be that the pandemic was Trump's fault.  Not China.  They couldn't allow that blame to be deflected to China.  So it couldn't have originated in a lab.  It had to be an act of nature that the Chinese couldn't control.  And then Trump was at fault for botching the response (albeit in some unspecified way since many more Americans died under Ukraine Joe with the vaccine than under Trump without it until the very end of his administration). The leftist hated Trump so much they were willing to politicize and falsify the origins of COVID to put the blame on Trump.  Fauci was also caught with his hands in the cookie jar by being party to the activities of that lab.  Millions died as a result of such disinformation with no consequences.   

What a fascinating fantasy world the leftists must live in.

Says a guy who clearly lives in a news bubble dominated by Fox "news" and completely unhinged right wingers. 

Fauci and company contended that there is no evidence it came from a lab.  Fauci was supposed to know the evidence.  He claimed to be the science.  That was his entire job.

Complete and utter nonsense. Fauci is a scientist, not an investigator nor a politician. How in the world would Fauci be able to "know the evidence" when the Chinese refused to cooperate? The simple answer is of course that he couldn't but that doesn't fit Grumpy's narrative....

This was a case of promoting one theory and trying to bury any other theories.  They tried to suppress the evidence relating to the lab.  Why?

Where do you come up with this kind of crap? Nobody promoted one theory and tried to bury others.... Unlike MAGA cult nuts, scientists don't promote "theories", they deal with facts and in this case they had none and still have none!

The leftist narrative had to be that the pandemic was Trump's fault.

And there is the classic right winger playing the victim again.....  Pathetic!

And then Trump was at fault for botching the response (albeit in some unspecified way since many more Americans died under Ukraine Joe with the vaccine than under Trump without it until the very end of his administration).

Of course Trump botched the response! And it is simply not true that more people have died from Covid under Biden than under Trump.

The leftist hated Trump so much they were willing to politicize and falsify the origins of COVID to put the blame on Trump. Fauci was also caught with his hands in the cookie jar by being party to the activities of that lab. 

And yet more false claims for which there is not a shred of evidence. Who falsified the origins of Covid? Who investigated this case and found that Fauci did something illegal? Instead of just making random false claims, why don't you name names and provide evidence for once?

Instead what I really expect to get is another idiotic rant full of bogus claims....

[Richard Smith]

And then Trump was at fault for botching the response (albeit in some unspecified way since many more Americans died under Ukraine Joe with the vaccine than under Trump without it until the very end of his administration).

Of course Trump botched the response! And it is simply not true that more people have died from Covid under Biden than under Trump.

Leftist apparently can't accept facts that don't fit their fantasy narrative.  It is simply a fact that many more Americans have died of COVID under Biden than under Trump.

Reuters: May 12, 2022
"President Joe Biden on Thursday commemorated the COVID-19 deaths of 1 million people in the United States, marking what he called "a tragic milestone" and urging Americans to "remain vigilant" during the ongoing pandemic." "Most of those deaths, some 600,000, happened after Biden took office in January 2021."


Keep in mind that was almost a year ago and another hundred thousand American deaths have occurred after this article.  So over 700K of the 1.1 million US deaths occurred under Ukraine Joe.  That's approximately 65% of the deaths under Old Joe with the Trump vaccine widely available.