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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #2728 on: March 30, 2025, 05:58:50 PM »
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If the Oligarchs get firm control of the government, the great bulk of the illegal immigrants will be allowed to stay in the country. This will be done because they benefits from the immigrant labor helps their profits.

There will be show deportations. Flying a mere 300 immigrants in chains to El Salvador. Not flying 300 per day. Just a one time flight to El Salvador.

And in the interest of being honest, I should state that I am not in favor of mass deportations of the immigrant because that would really hurt our economy. I am just pointing out that IF mass deportations would be a positive good, you will never get that from the billionaire controlled Trump administration. You need to go with someone who is not controlled by the billionaires, who is not a billionaire, who has NEVER received money from billionaires and who will not give in by accepting a million dollars a day bribe as Trump does now.

   Whether you know it or not, you have been completely swallowed up whole by Fake News. How about defining the terms you are throwing around? Specifically, what is "mass deportation"? WHO does this apply to? How many people does it take to reach this "mass" level?  2? 22? 200? more?  You are speaking in a gobbledygook manner. This is what we get 24/7 from Fake News and You are now parroting it. Is this what YOU want? And your Trump stuff makes absolutely no sense. The only thing slowing Trump down from getting ILLEGALS ALIENS out of this country are judges' injunctions. A Fed District Court Judge does Not have the authority to ORDER DOJ Planes that are already in flight to turn around. There are roughly 650 judges at this level. So at any point in time ANY/ALL of these 650 judges could Order the turning around of DOJ airplanes already in flight?

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« Reply #2728 on: March 30, 2025, 05:58:50 PM »


Online Joe Elliott

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« Reply #2729 on: March 30, 2025, 07:03:42 PM »
   Whether you know it or not, you have been completely swallowed up whole by Fake News. How about defining the terms you are throwing around? Specifically, what is "mass deportation"? WHO does this apply to? How many people does it take to reach this "mass" level?  2? 22? 200? more?  You are speaking in a gobbledygook manner. This is what we get 24/7 from Fake News and You are now parroting it. Is this what YOU want? And your Trump stuff makes absolutely no sense. The only thing slowing Trump down from getting ILLEGALS ALIENS out of this country are judges' injunctions. A Fed District Court Judge does Not have the authority to ORDER DOJ Planes that are already in flight to turn around. There are roughly 650 judges at this level. So at any point in time ANY/ALL of these 650 judges could Order the turning around of DOJ airplanes already in flight?

Specifically, what is "mass deportation"? WHO does this apply to? How many people does it take to reach this "mass" level?


By "mass deportations" I mean enough deportations to deport at least 90 % the illegal immigrants in 4 years.

There are an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the U. S. right now.
If Trump was to deport 10,000 illegal immigrants per week, after 200 weeks, by the end of his administration, he would have deported 2,000,000.
If Trump was to deport 50,000 illegal immigrants per week, in 4 years he would have deported 10,000,000

And this all assumes that zero illegal immigrants are entering the country per week right now.

How many is Trump deporting? 5,000 per week. Not as many as Joe Biden was.

At this rate, all the illegal immigrants will be out of the county in 44 years.

So what is the problem?

Why isn't Trump explaining what is going wrong and what he intends to do about this?

Is it possible the Oligarchs do not want to lose their profits and have instructed Trump to just do show deportations, like flying 300 to El Salvador in chains? In order to make good on all the contributions they have made to him? To make up for the 1,000,000 dollars a day the billionaires are giving him by "investing" in Trump's bitcoin? And that, in any case, Trump is too busy:

* taking apart Medicaid
* taking apart Medicare
* taking apart Social Security
* gearing up for big tax cuts for the billionaires
* gearing up for big deficit spending because even the big cuts government services won't cover the big tax cuts for the billionaires that they want

From what I see, the promised mass deportations are never going to happen under Trump. When is MAGA going to start complaining about his?

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« Reply #2730 on: March 30, 2025, 08:24:30 PM »

  "So what is the problem?". Somehow you missed what I said about Injunctions/Judges. And I didn't even get into the Blue State Gov/Mayors.

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Online Joe Elliott

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« Reply #2731 on: March 30, 2025, 10:09:52 PM »

So, let's see if I got this straight.

In 2016, Trump ran on keeping out the immigrants. In the first administration, Trump built a wall to keep out the illegal immigrants. But it only covers two per cent of the border with Mexico. At that rate, it would take 200 years to wall off Mexico.

Question: Are all the MAGA people are fine with this?

Trump deporting 5,000 illegal immigrants per week. A slower rate than what was happening under the Biden administration. And this rate it would take 44 years to deport all 11,000,000 illegal immigrants.

Question: Are all the MAGA people are fine with this as well?

When is Trump going to address these issues?

Is it possible that Trump is just focused on what billionaires want and do not really care about what MAGA wants, once he has their votes? And the billionaires don't want to see much of their important labor force in America go away?

I'm talking to Richard Smith and Royall Storing here, as well as others who are MAGA. How happy are you with Trump so far?

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« Reply #2732 on: March 30, 2025, 10:55:37 PM »

                                                                                        Guess you missed the CBS Poll this morning. 

                           (1) Trump Approval - 50%    (2) IMMIGRATION - 53% (Approval)    (3) Deporting Illegal Migrants - 58% (Approval)   -   2,600 polled March 27 & 28

                                                                                                 Read it and Weep Pilgrim

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« Reply #2733 on: March 30, 2025, 10:59:17 PM »
So, let's see if I got this straight.

In 2016, Trump ran on keeping out the immigrants. In the first administration, Trump built a wall to keep out the illegal immigrants. But it only covers two per cent of the border with Mexico. At that rate, it would take 200 years to wall off Mexico.

Question: Are all the MAGA people are fine with this?

Trump deporting 5,000 illegal immigrants per week. A slower rate than what was happening under the Biden administration. And this rate it would take 44 years to deport all 11,000,000 illegal immigrants.

Question: Are all the MAGA people are fine with this as well?

When is Trump going to address these issues?

Is it possible that Trump is just focused on what billionaires want and do not really care about what MAGA wants, once he has their votes? And the billionaires don't want to see much of their important labor force in America go away?

I'm talking to Richard Smith and Royall Storing here, as well as others who are MAGA. How happy are you with Trump so far?

Would you like The Traitorous Orange Bird if he finished the wall?

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« Reply #2734 on: March 31, 2025, 01:31:21 AM »
                                                                                        Guess you missed the CBS Poll this morning. 

                           (1) Trump Approval - 50%    (2) IMMIGRATION - 53% (Approval)    (3) Deporting Illegal Migrants - 58% (Approval)   -   2,600 polled March 27 & 28

                                                                                                 Read it and Weep Pilgrim

Trump numbers will go down for many reasons, including his inability or lack of motive to deport the a reasonable number of illegal immigrants.

If he can't figure it out, maybe you should try electing someone who can.

And you talk about blue state governors. What about Texas? What about Florida? Why is he not even about a plan to get around his difficulties?

And let's put aside polls. There is one question I do have for YOU.

How do feel about having a President who promised to deport the immigrants. But cannot seem to figure out a way of doing this? And does not seem interested in figuring out a way to do this?
« Last Edit: March 31, 2025, 01:38:18 AM by Joe Elliott »

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« Reply #2735 on: March 31, 2025, 01:37:42 AM »
Texas reaches 400 measles cases as US deals with outbreaks in 5 states
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Not a single kid has gotten sick from anything RFK Jr has done.  He was just recently appointed.   The measles outbreak is originating in the border states.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to deduce its origins.  Tens of millions of unvaccinated people from poor countries were allowed to flood across the open border.  The measles outbreak is just one byproduct of that invasion.

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« Reply #2735 on: March 31, 2025, 01:37:42 AM »