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« Reply #2056 on: January 22, 2025, 04:02:50 PM »
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   Like we didn't see an outbreak of TDS coming on 1/20/25? And then there's the pure hatred. Ugly! Calling Biden a "grifter" is severely down sizing what he and his Crime Family were doing during his VP & POTUS tenure. They had this going on a Global scale. That is far larger than grifter territory.

The Bidens were so arrogant and corrupt that they made little effort to conceal their crimes.  Hunter was high most of the time.  He even wrote a book confessing to numerous felonies including sex trafficking.  It was only due to the influence of his father that he wasn't convicted years ago.  I do agree that the scope of their corruption was enormous and global in scale.  No one is suggesting that making money from legitimate business ventures, such as the Trump family has done for decades before Trump entered politics, is somehow a crime.  That is the American way.  In contrast, the Bidens had no business.  They simply shook down foreign governments and laundered the money.  And they got away with no consequences other than some minor embarrassment at the last-minute pardons.  They are a minor footnote of history now.  No one will ever give a second thought to Joe Biden or his corrupt family going forward.  If they are remembered at all, it will be for the enormous harm done in the US and around the world.
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« Reply #2057 on: January 22, 2025, 05:04:42 PM »
That's far out tin foil hat stuff.  We had four years of that Russian collusion hoax.  Give it a rest.  The obsession with the KGB is bizarre.  Playing the Kevin Bacon game to link Trump to the Russians is comedy gold, though.  Do you have a diagram with lines between all the parties?  LOL.  The KGB was even more inept than our own government.  The Russian boogeyman is a product of US cold war propaganda to promote military spending.  Russia has barely been able to overrun even small regions of the Ukraine but they are using Trump as an agent?  Whew.

Even if there was no "collusion" (e.g., between some combination of Roger Stone, Harley Schlanger (of the LaRouche organization), Paul Manafort, GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik, Julian Assange and Vladimir Putin) -- which there probably was; Robert Muller failed to "follow the money" -- why did Putin's GRU, FSB, and professional Saint Petersburg trolls help The Traitorous Orange Person win, and why did Russian oligarchs and mafia boys celebrate his Electoral College "victory" over Hillary Clinton?
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« Reply #2058 on: January 22, 2025, 05:11:20 PM »
Even if there was no "collusion" (e.g., between some combination of Roger Stone, Harley Schlanger (of the LaRouche organization), Paul Manafort, GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik, Julian Assange and Vladimir Putin) -- which there probably was; Robert Muller failed to "follow the money" -- why did Putin's GRU, FSB, and professional Saint Petersburg trolls help The Traitorous Orange Person win, and why did Russian oligarchs and mafia boys celebrate his Electoral College "victory" over Hillary Clinton?

False premise.  I don't know that the Russians helped Trump win (whatever that means).  Many people celebrated Hillary's defeat for obvious reasons.   Nothing nefarious in that.  More importantly, there is no evidence that any of Trump's policy decisions were influenced by the Russians.  He certainly tried to appeal to Putin's ego with good result.  No invasion of Ukraine. 

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« Reply #2059 on: January 22, 2025, 05:41:24 PM »
False premise.  I don't know that the Russians helped Trump win (whatever that means).  Many people celebrated Hillary's defeat for obvious reasons.   Nothing nefarious in that.  More importantly, there is no evidence that any of Trump's policy decisions were influenced by the Russians.  He certainly tried to appeal to Putin's ego with good result.  No invasion of Ukraine.

Specious reply.

Have you read the Mueller Report or the Senate Intelligence Committee Report?

Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on the latter:

The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first part of its five-volume report in July 2019 in which it concluded that the January 2017 Intelligence Community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed." The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper," learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions." The final and fifth volume, which was the result of three years of investigations, was released on August 18, 2020,[6] ending one of the United States "highest-profile congressional inquiries."[7][8] The Committee report found that the Russian government had engaged in an "extensive campaign" to sabotage the election in favor of Donald Trump, which included assistance from some of Trump's own advisers.[7]
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« Reply #2060 on: January 22, 2025, 06:56:54 PM »
The Bidens were so arrogant and corrupt that they made little effort to conceal their crimes.  Hunter was high most of the time.  He even wrote a book confessing to numerous felonies including sex trafficking.  It was only due to the influence of his father that he wasn't convicted years ago.  I do agree that the scope of their corruption was enormous and global in scale.  No one is suggesting that making money from legitimate business ventures, such as the Trump family has done for decades before Trump entered politics, is somehow a crime.  That is the American way.  In contrast, the Bidens had no business.  They simply shook down foreign governments and laundered the money.  And they got away with no consequences other than some minor embarrassment at the last-minute pardons.  They are a minor footnote of history now.  No one will ever give a second thought to Joe Biden or his corrupt family going forward.  If they are remembered at all, it will be for the enormous harm done in the US and around the world.

  And that stuff about Hunter having a warehouse full of Million Dollar paintings torched in the So Cal fires is probably an Insurance Scam. This is Tony Soprano stuff.

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« Reply #2061 on: January 22, 2025, 07:50:21 PM »
And that stuff about Hunter having a warehouse full of Million Dollar paintings torched in the So Cal fires is probably an Insurance Scam. This is Tony Soprano stuff.

Probably, huh?

Can you prove it, Storing, or do you just have a criminal mind and that's what you would have done?

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« Reply #2062 on: January 22, 2025, 08:36:09 PM »
Probably, huh?

Can you prove it, Storing, or do you just have a criminal mind and that's what you would have done?

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« Reply #2063 on: January 22, 2025, 08:48:31 PM »
   I'm a 2nd floor man. Strictly diamonds. Easy to fence.

Figures.

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