Final Conclusion*

[Richard Smith]

Of course not. Oswald was a wrong man on the wrong place. Because of his life in USSR and coming back to the US, he was a person of interest. If he did not left TSBD in panic, if he was calm and waited everything to settle that day, most probably he would not be charged. When he saw the "assassination" he left TSBD in panic knowing that he will be prime suspect. I am sure you would do the same.

How do you figure that since Oswald's rifle was left at the crime scene by someone?  Obviously, he either left it there or someone else left it there to frame him for the crime.   

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Of course not. Oswald was a wrong man on the wrong place. Because of his life in USSR and coming back to the US, he was a person of interest. If he did not left TSBD in panic, if he was calm and waited everything to settle that day, most probably he would not be charged. When he saw the "assassination" he left TSBD in panic knowing that he will be prime suspect. I am sure you would do the same.

How did he know the "assassination" occurred? How did he know he would be the suspect? If he was having lunch at the time of the shooting, then came out to see what happened, how did he know anything about what happened? People around the TSBD were unsure as to what happened. They heard shots but weren't' sure whether the president was hit or not.

According to the people who where there and from photos and films, it was chaos. Nobody really knew what happened. It was all confusion and rumors. But you think Oswald saw all of this, concluded the president was shot, and then further concluded I better run because I'm going to be blamed? Why not stay and show he couldn't have done it?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

I'm pretty sure Nixon would not have been treated the same.  In fact, a few years later the media basically ended his presidency.  But the real point is that JFK suffered from serious health concerns and took a laundry list of drugs that should have precluded him from ever being president.  He lied about those conditions and no one from the press ever bothered to investigate.

My question as to how the media gave him a pass for his drug regimen is still on the table. Dallek broke the story in 2002. He says the treatment was closely held and only known by a small group in the Kennedy circle. The media didn't know about it so they couldn't have given JFK a "pass."

As to the press: RFK and JFK had to answer the claims that JFK suffered from serious illness, specifically Addison's Disease. He lied. It was a different era, the media were simply not as confrontational or challenging as they are now. And JFK appeared remarkably healthy except for his bad back problems. There was nothing indicating outwardly that he was as ill as he was.

[Richard Smith]

My question as to how the media gave him a pass for his drug regimen is still on the table. Dallek broke the story in 2002. He says the treatment was closely held and only known by a small group in the Kennedy circle. The media didn't know about it so they couldn't have given JFK a "pass."

As to the press: RFK and JFK had to answer the claims that JFK suffered from serious illness, specifically Addison's Disease. He lied. It was a different era, the media were simply not as confrontational or challenging as they are now. And JFK appeared remarkably healthy except for his bad problems. There was nothing indicating outwardly that he was as ill as he was.

Nixon lied to the media as well.  The media didn't give him a pass.  They investigated and found sources.  DC is full of folks willing to leak information.  JFK had long, well publicized stays in the hospital over the years including during his term in Congress.  He almost died.  It was a different time but the media gave him a pass on many topics including his health, womanizing etc.  Had they been interested in doing his administration harm, as they did with Nixon, he would have been toast.  But they were elitist liberals and JFK was their president.   

[Patrick Jackson]

How do you figure that since Oswald's rifle was left at the crime scene by someone?  Obviously, he either left it there or someone else left it there to frame him for the crime.

There are testimonies that one TSBD employee brought Mauser rifle the previous day and showed to his colleagues. In this moment I cannot search for exact data but it is there for sure. Nobody investigated what exactly happened to that Mauser and I believe that was the rifle found in TSBD, not Oswalds Carcano. There are many discussions and comparisons between this two rifles.

[Patrick Jackson]

How did he know the "assassination" occurred? How did he know he would be the suspect? If he was having lunch at the time of the shooting, then came out to see what happened, how did he know anything about what happened? People around the TSBD were unsure as to what happened. They heard shots but weren't' sure whether the president was hit or not.

According to the people who where there and from photos and films, it was chaos. Nobody really knew what happened. It was all confusion and rumors. But you think Oswald saw all of this, concluded the president was shot, and then further concluded I better run because I'm going to be blamed? Why not stay and show he couldn't have done it?

At the very instant there were people who claimed it was assassination. If Oswald was on the TSBD steps he must have heard the sounds and saw the commotion, people running towards Grassy knoll. If you were there, what would you think that is happening? Firecrackers, motorcycle backfires or gun shots? People reactions corresponds to what? Nah, it was firecrackers guys, clam down and go home... Nah, it was back fire... Or, it were gun shots and people got panic? Immediate reaction of everybody could only mean that there were gun shots and there was no reason Oswald to think about anything else but gun shots.
Why he did not stay? Well, he got panicked as everybody else. 

[Rick Plant]

Since the forum was hacked and deleted in January 2018, I was in great doubt if to post my theory and findings again.
As 11/22 approaches again, I have decided to write few lines mostly to see if there are more researchers now who think, believe or know that JFK did not die that day in Dallas.
If you remember, my theory is that the "assassination" in Dallas was a staged event with aim to pull heavily ill JFK out of politics. Many wanted to kill him and it was almost inevitable and at some point JFK, Jackie, SS and Hoover came to an idea to fake assassination as a win win for everybody.
JFK was leading US and world politics towards more humanity, dignity and world as a better place to live and many did not like it. Dozens of groups and organizations wanted to kill him, from CIA, Federal reserve to mafia and military capitalist earning huge money out of wars.
I believe that on 11/22/1963 JFK left Dallas alive onboard his "Caroline" plane and went to Florida Winter White House. He died in March 1967 and buried at Arlington cemetery on March 14-15, 1967. Official story states his casket moved to a better spot that night but it was a cover up for his real burial.
Several participants of this staged assassination on 11/22/1963 are still alive.


*My original post back in 2015 was named "Final Solution" but at that time a was not aware this term was used by Nazis to describe mass murders across Europe in WWII.

Totally absurd.

[Rick Plant]

So you are suggesting that JFK would knowingly allow an innocent man to take the blame for his assassination and spend the rest of his life in jail or perhaps even be executed?   Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement of JFK's character.   You do raise some interesting points regarding JFK's health.   We now know that JFK suffered from numerous health conditions which were treated with a laundry list of drugs.  JFK lied and covered up his health conditions while running for office.  Under modern standards and perhaps even at that time, he would have been deemed incapable of being president had those facts come to light.  Imagine if the press found out that President Trump had been taking the same list of drugs as JFK including amphetamines while president?  They would have called for his resignation and claimed he was a risk to national security. But JFK got a pass from the leftist press. Some things never change.

"Leftist Press"

There is no "leftist press". There was never a "leftist press" in the 60's or 70's either.

Back then, an FCC rule called the Fairness Doctrine existed. That rule mandated that radio and tv stations must have a conservative and a liberal balance of news on every station so no bias could occur. If a station violated the rule then they would be subjected to fines. So, it was impossible to have a "leftist media" as you continue to falsely claim.

In 1987, Ronald Reagan let the Fairness Doctrine expire which paved the way for the right wing media takeover we continue to see today. Rupert Murdoch immediately swooped in a bought up independent tv stations in all major media markets and turned them into FOX tv stations. Clear Channel radio bought up radio stations all across America and started syndicating right wing talk shows. Sinclair Broadcasting bought up hundreds of local ABC, CBS, NBC tv affiliates and began pushing far right wing propaganda into their local news in major cities all across America. The Fairness Doctine was gone and the right was able to start their assault in every form of mass communication because they were allowed to and no laws prevented them from doing it.     

The same thing happened with newspapers and now with CNN and news sites like Politico being bought out by right wing corporations or individuals. So, this "leftist media" is a myth being propagated by the right. They do that for two reasons: One is to keep the mainstream media from reporting all the GOP corruption because the MSM is afraid to appear to look biased for actually doing the job they are supposed to be doing. And two, it allows the right to justify buying up more media outlets. All they say is "it's a liberal media so we need to compete" which is false because they own everything.               

When Faux Propaganda gets sued in court their own lawyers tell the judge "Don't listen to Carlson, Hannity, or Ingraham because they are not news, they are entertainment". Their own lawyers in a court of law argue that Faux is indeed the lying propaganda that is. They constantly lie about imaginary election fraud, the insurrection, and Criminal Donald's crimes. GOP politicians echo the same lies and the sheep on the right believe it all. It's just one big right wing echo chamber and propaganda machine.             

And you continue to disparage the legacy of JFK with conspiracy theories.   

Back in the day, the private personal lives of presidents was never reported. The press never reported stuff about FDR, Truman, Ike, Johnson, and even Nixon. So, don't push propaganda trying to claim it was a "leftist press" that gave JFK a pass. And also, these are after the fact claims with swirling conspiracy theories trying to discredit JFK.

Criminal Donald was reported to be addicted to Adderall and his mental health alone should have disqualified him from even being in office. Even his own cabinet was looking for a way to invoke the 25th Amendment because he was insane and was a threat to our national security. This was a lunatic who wanted to start a nuclear war with China to stay in power. A maniac who incited an insurrection to illegally seize power. A loser who continues to lie about non existent voter fraud because he can't admit he lost in a blowout election since his narcissistic ego can't handle it. Even his own former officials said he is mentally ill. 27 top Psychologists said he is nuts. He was a risk to national security and still is according to many top officials that witnessed his insane manic behavior.

These 27 Top Shrinks Think Trump Might Be Nuts
https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-27-top-shrinks-think-trump-might-be-nuts

With regards to Nixon, the only reason that he resigned was because Republicans back in the 70's cared about America and supported the Constitution and the rule of law holding a President accountable for his crimes in office. We also had a fair and respected media that didn't push outright lies and propaganda 24/7 on right wing cable news outlets. They did investigative reporting and just reported straight news without the spin. If the right wing media was around back in 1974 along with the same GOP traitors we have in office today, Nixon never would have resigned because the GOP traitors would have protected him like they did for Criminal Donald and the right wing media would have been brainwashing the people on the right just like they do today.