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Offline Rick Plant

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« Reply #73 on: December 18, 2021, 01:14:22 AM »
Oh well then, varmint-hunters LBJ and Russell trump the experts used by the Warren Commission and HSCA, the 2004 "Beyond the Magic Bullet" documentary and Luke and Michael Haag (NOVA 2013).

I'm sure -- in the CT and CT-"skeptic" world -- some ambulance drivers and orderlies are better able to speak on the medical aspects than, for example, the Clark Panel and HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel.

   Hi Jerry,   You may want to add Mrs. Kennedy's name when mentioning the Clark Panel and HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel.   No, she's not a pathologist, but what she told Theodore White during his interview with her just 7 days after the assassination about the condition of JFK's head--which is quite graphic and quite reliable--she describes a much different head wound location than the CT crowd claims--and she repeated it twice not only does she say where the head wound was, she also described how and where on the head she was trying to keep ["His] brains in".       

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« Reply #74 on: December 18, 2021, 01:56:24 AM »
   Hi Jerry,   You may want to add Mrs. Kennedy's name when mentioning the Clark Panel and HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel.   No, she's not a pathologist, but what she told Theodore White during his interview with her just 7 days after the assassination about the condition of JFK's head--which is quite graphic and quite reliable--she describes a much different head wound location than the CT crowd claims--and she repeated it twice not only does she say where the head wound was, she also described how and where on the head she was trying to keep ["His] brains in".     

In the real world, the wound suffered by a victim is just that; one wound of a certain description, which should be supported by all those who saw the wound, either at Parkland or during the autopsy.

So, where is this discrepancy coming from? One the one hand you have the official narrative and on the other you have all sorts of people who actually saw the wound who seriously disagree with eachother. How in the world can anybody dismiss all those witnesses that saw something different than what the official narrative is telling us. Are they all mistaken or liars, even when they have nothing to gain from sticking by their observations?

Paul O'Connor was supposed to have removed Kennedy's brain and when he tried to do that he found that was hardly anything there to remove. They then told him to keep his mouth shut about what he had seen at the autopsy. Only when the HSCA wanted to talk to him, he was released from the order to remain silent. And that's when he told what he really saw. Did he, and others, make it all up?

Just stop and think about it for a minute. The official narrative tells you one thing and multiple people who actually saw the wound tell you something different. Did they all get together and make up this story? Did they stand to make money out of it? Of course not, so why do all these people tell a different story, if in fact the official story is the only true one?

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« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2021, 06:26:55 AM »
The Soviets goal was always to control America.
Between 1947 and 1989, the United States tried to change other nations’ governments 72 times ... It includes 66 covert operations and six overt ones.
It's a known fact.

During the Cold War, for instance, 26 of the United States’ covert operations successfully brought a U.S.-backed government to power; the remaining 40 failed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/23/the-cia-says-russia-hacked-the-u-s-election-here-are-6-things-to-learn-from-cold-war-attempts-to-change-regimes/
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« Reply #76 on: December 18, 2021, 11:30:47 PM »
Between 1947 and 1989, the United States tried to change other nations’ governments 72 times ... It includes 66 covert operations and six overt ones.
It's a known fact.

During the Cold War, for instance, 26 of the United States’ covert operations successfully brought a U.S.-backed government to power; the remaining 40 failed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/23/the-cia-says-russia-hacked-the-u-s-election-here-are-6-things-to-learn-from-cold-war-attempts-to-change-regimes/

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« Reply #77 on: December 19, 2021, 04:05:41 PM »
"We will take America without firing a shot" - Nikita Khrushchev
Migrants from Latin-America have already done this ;)

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« Reply #78 on: December 19, 2021, 04:15:03 PM »
Migrants from Latin-America have already done this ;)

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Re: Last Second in Dallas
« Reply #79 on: December 19, 2021, 06:40:44 PM »
Between 1947 and 1989, the United States tried to change other nations’ governments 72 times ... It includes 66 covert operations and six overt ones.
It's a known fact.

During the Cold War, for instance, 26 of the United States’ covert operations successfully brought a U.S.-backed government to power; the remaining 40 failed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/23/the-cia-says-russia-hacked-the-u-s-election-here-are-6-things-to-learn-from-cold-war-attempts-to-change-regimes/


 
 In the world today, while the limousine was on its way to Parkland between Dealey Plaza and Parkland Hospital, unfortunately, Mrs. Kennedy would be considered as having "tampered with evidence" because she altered the damage to the head the moment she put the piece of skull she said she saw "detach itself" back into place, and "tried to keep his brains in" as she  " kept trying to hold the top of his head down".  This is the flap of inside-out skull we can clearly see in the Zapruder film as well as two publicly released photos taken during the autopsy.    The  two pictures that show the skull flap hanging over the temple area are the back of the head photos, and the photograph of the measuring the distance from the neck to the back wound--and most copies of the back wound are cropped and do not show this.  At any rate...Mrs. Kennedy closed the hole in the head up as much as she could by putting the flap back into place since it was still connected to the scalp, so, when the president was taken into the ER and the doctors saw only part of the hole in the head--this is where the discrepancy comes from.  Bill and Gayle Newman described what they saw from 10 feet away.  The large flap of skull hanging over the temple was visible to them, and Mrs. Newman describes this during her interview with WFAA's Jay Watson.  Marilyn Sitzman said the damage "was between the eye and the ear", so she no doubt saw the inside-out flap of skull, mistaking it as a wound..  We see the top of Kennedy's head fly off  in the Zapruder, Nix and Muchmore films.  Parts of the skull landed in the grass several yards ahead of where the limousine was positioned at the time of the fatal shot.  The Harper fragment, found by Billy Harper, and a fragment found by David Burris, which was turned over to Detective R.L. Studebaker in Dallas on the day of the assassination.  Burris marked on a photograph of the infield grass where he found the skull fragment.  This fragment was flown to Washington from Dallas per document.   So, I believe that due to the loose skull  piece hanging over the temple being put back into place by Mrs. Kennedy, this is the major part of the reason for the discrepancy over the location of--and damage of the head wound.  
 
  Where people like Paul O'Conner are concerned...I saw Vincent Bugliosi question Paul O'Conner about his claim that there was no brain being in the head--or  very little of it-- and I find it difficult to believe such a thing happened when there are photographs vividly showing the brain hanging out of the massive hole in top of the head.  And I thought Vince did a good job at proving Paul O'Conner's story is impossible.

  It seems to me that conspiracy believers want to disregard people like the Newman's, Zapruder and Sitzman, and most importantly, Mrs. Kennedy.  She flat-out says the top of his head was gone and that she was holding his brains in her hands. She had the first and best view of JFK's head over anyone else that day. 

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