One Witness

[Alan J. Ford]

Lee Oswald saw Jarman and Norman at approximately 12:27....NOT 12:23....  At 12:23  J & N were still outside at the front of the TSBD trying to find a place were they could view the motorcade.   They decided to go up to the fifth floor at about 12:25, so they would have passed by the 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:26 / 12:27.

I've long been puzzled why they decided to go to the 5th floor rather that the 6th floor..... Had they been told that the sixth floor was off limits during the motorcade?

Critical-thinkers can certainly appreciate your inquisitiveness here, Mr. Cakebread, @ quote, I've long been puzzled why they decided to go to the 5th floor rather that the 6th floor..... Had they been told that the sixth floor was off limits during the motorcade?

It wouldn't be surprising if they were simply following Roy Truly's orders to stay clear of the area as he had already ordered Mr. Doughtery (Jack) to perform a few non-related work task up there...and critical-thinkers shouldn't give Mr. Williams (Bonnie Ray) a free pass either...but more importantly Why was Roy Truly over in the sniper nest? ---->

Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

Amazing what some people will do for thirty pieces of silver. Bunch of lying chicken sh*t treasonous cowards. The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[Alan J. Ford]

Walt, your timeline is the more probable one because mine is based on the 12:22 radio transmission which Norman and Jarman heard and it’s unlikely they left instantly upon hearing that report of the JFK limo en route to Dealey Plaza.

My point was that it’s virtually impossible for Oswald to place that box at 12:25 even if it were probable N&J  left exactly at 12:22 thus passing by Oswald at 12:23 in the Domino room.

It’s highly doubtful that Oswald could run UP each staircase with 18 steps and a 15ft floor landing  at a sustained rate of 12 secs per floor.

And he would have to run at a sustained 10 ft/sec over 80ft of ground floor and 180ft of the  6th floor.

And this doesn’t even consider how Jack Dougherty on the 5th floor and Bonnie Ray Williams on the 6th floor who didn’t take the elevator down from 6th floor until 12.24, missed seeing Oswald.

A fair assessment there, Mr. Mason, certainly appreciate your sense of integrity and honesty @ moving the timeline further away from 12:22PM, citing that Mr. Jarman (Junior) and Mr. Norman (Harold) hadn't even departed the front area of the building, let alone accounted for the time it would take them to walk towards the rear of the building along Houston Street...

Good call! @ both you & Mr. Cakebread for establishing an honest timeline.

[Alan J. Ford]

Zeon, just a point of interest, did Oswald know he had been accused of killing the President when he said "I'm just a patsy"? If not, why would he say he was outside the TBSD if  he hadn't?

A valid point, Mr. Mitcham, because even as the wrongly-accused entered his midnight presser he still didn't know what for and/or why he was being showcased ---->

Bunch of lying treasonous cowards Framing an innocent party amid a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure.

[Alan J. Ford]

IDK if Mr.Ford is still around or will ever visit this thread again to address a question that was raised as to why If Oswald was out front standing at PM location that Oswald never took the opportunity to shout out during any time during camera opportunities, nor did Oswald tell his brother, mother, or his wife about his location “out front” at time of shooting.[/i]

My response: A fair question there, Mr. Mason, please see the post directly above this one (at that time, the wrongly-accused didn't even know he was being charged with anything, let alone have any idea why he was being showcased).

Of course, in fairness to your question, there did come a time when he was made aware of the charges (which he emphatically denies). That was the last time officialdom would ever allow any more audio and/or video footage of the wrongly-accused sharing His Truth, which is the whole truth, He was not upstairs on the 6th floor, let alone where Roy Truly visited over in the sniper's nest before the rifle & shell casings were planted, err, found.

The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[Alan J. Ford]

Gentlemen,

Just a brief recap: this thread has shared where the wrongly-accused was before the motorcade passed by the TSBD (Mr. Jarman shared that gem with us, and confirming it even more so the wrongly-accused cited "Junior's" movements as he and his fellow coworker Mr. Norman (Harold) reentered the TSBD at the rear between 12:27 - 12:28PM. We all are wise enough to know anyone lurking in a sniper's nest six stories up in the front of the building could not have shared this key encounter with Jarman & Norman in the rear of building six stories below.

This thread also shared where the wrongly-accused was when the motorcade passed the TSBD (right out front like he said he was), before a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure desperately attempts to say otherwise. Today, the focus is upon the wrongly-accused's movements following the cowardly chicken sh*t ambush upon a duly elected representative of the people.

Amazing what some people will do for thirty pieces of silver. Brb

[Alan J. Ford]

Hearing the rousing anticipatory cheers outside, the wrongly-accused gathered his Dr. Pepper and remaining remnants of his lunch and left the domino lunch room, where just moments before he had observed two of his fellow coworkers reenter the building from the rear.

Quickening his steps he made a beeline across the expanse of the first-floor, through the double-doors and outside into the crisp Autumn air. Late to the party, his path was blocked by other coworkers on the front-entrance stairs to proceed any further down the steps, so he took up the only remaining position left, standing in the rear atop the entrance steps of his workplace, essentially out front like he has said all along. Carolyn Arnold observed his late arrival, well, until she was made an offer she couldn't refuse...

Shots fired! The Earth stood still for what seemed like an eternity...then slowly the shocking realization of what had just transpired registered through out Dealey Plaza. The wrongly-accused and Mr. Frazier looked in wonder at one another amid sheer shock atop the entrance steps...

Gentlemen, will have to pick up here next week the Good Lord willing to share precisely the wrongly-accused's movements as he reenters the front entrance...factual evidence will be shared (a dozen specific movements he makes downstairs, nowhere near a fictitious phantom encounter in the 2nd floor lunchroom). Best wishes to all to remain safe, healthy and free of any lingering COVID-19 variants.

[Walt Cakebread]

Gentlemen,

Just a brief recap: this thread has shared where the wrongly-accused was before the motorcade passed by the TSBD (Mr. Jarman shared that gem with us, and confirming it even more so the wrongly-accused cited "Junior's" movements as he and his fellow coworker Mr. Norman (Harold) reentered the TSBD at the rear between 12:27 - 12:28PM. We all are wise enough to know anyone lurking in a sniper's nest six stories up in the front of the building could not have shared this key encounter with Jarman & Norman in the rear of building six stories below.

This thread also shared where the wrongly-accused was when the motorcade passed the TSBD (right out front like he said he was), before a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure desperately attempts to say otherwise. Today, the focus is upon the wrongly-accused's movements following the cowardly chicken sh*t ambush upon a duly elected representative of the people.

Amazing what some people will do for thirty pieces of silver. Brb

This thread also shared where the wrongly-accused was when the motorcade passed the TSBD (right out front like he said he was),

Fritz asked Lee where he was at the time the President passed by the TSBD, and Lee told him that he was in the first floor lunchroom.

[Alan J. Ford]

This thread also shared where the wrongly-accused was when the motorcade passed the TSBD (right out front like he said he was),

Fritz asked Lee where he was at the time the President passed by the TSBD, and Lee told him that he was in the first floor lunchroom.

Gentlemen,

Good morning! In fairness to Mr. Cakebread, I will respectfully respect his take on this exchange. However, void of any audio and/or video recording of the wrongly-accused's multiple interrogations over several days time anyone less than forthcoming could say he said this, or he said that, etc.

We already know that two of officialdom's "witnesses" (the lying rooftop tandem of Baker and Roy Truly) are outright liars, shamelessly parroting back a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure as if it was the Truth, whole Truth and nothing but the Truth.

That said, I don't personally believe, and would caution others as well to be wary of anything the wrongly-accused is to said to have said after he was conveniently silenced. The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

Speaking of the lying rooftop tandem, it's been six months now since an otherwise easy enough challenge was issued by moi to the LN's to produce One Witness to substantiate the fairytale that Baker and Roy Truly were together on the backstairs immediately following the cowardly ambush on a duly elected representative of the people.

To date, they have nothing. There's a reason for that.