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[Jack Nessan]

Martin Weidmann:  "Oh yes it's goodbye."

I thought you weren't going to waste any more time on me. Among many other things you are not a man of your word. Not an admirable trait but not surprising.

Good bye again Martin.

[Jack Nessan]

Kellerman's "flurry of shots" evolved during his testimony into the second shot was the headshot. Zapruder thought there was only two shots.

Mr. ZAPRUDER - Well, as the car came in line almost--I believe it was almost in line. I was standing up here and I was shooting through a telephoto lens, which is a zoom lens and as it reached about--I imagine it was around here--I heard the first shot and I saw the President lean over and grab himself like this (holding his left chest area).
Mr. LIEBELER - Grab himself on the front of his chest?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Right---something like that. In other words, he was sitting like this and waving and then after the shot he just went like that.
Mr. LIEBELER - He was sitting upright in the car and you heard the shot and you saw the President slump over?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Leaning--leaning toward the side of Jacqueline. For a moment I thought it was, you know, like you say, "Oh, he got me," when you hear a shot--you've heard these expressions and then I saw---I don't believe the President is going to make jokes like this, but before I had a chance to organize my mind, I heard a second shot and then I saw his head opened up and the blood and everything came out and I started--I can hardly talk about it [ the witness crying].


Mr. ZAPRUDER - I thought I heard two, it could be three, because to my estimation I thought he was hit on the second--I really don't know. The whole thing that has been transpiring--it was very upsetting and as you see I got a little better all the time and this came up again and it to me looked like the second shot, but I don't know. I never even heard a third shot.
Mr. LIEBELER - You didn't hear any shot after you saw him hit?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - I heard the second--after the first shot--I saw him leaning over and after the second shot--it's possible after what I saw, you know, then I started yelling,

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You mentioned Gov Connally. He thought he was hit by a shot he never heard. He describes being struck by the first as did Nellie and Jackie.

Governor CONNALLY
.....I immediately, when I was hit, I said, "Oh, no, no, no." And then I said, "My God, they are going to kill us all." Nellie, when she pulled me over into her lap----

Mrs. CONNALLY. -----------------------------------As the first shot was hit, and I turned to look at the same time, I recall John saying, "Oh, no, no, no." Then there was a second shot…..
 
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Mrs. KENNEDY. You know, there is always noise in a motorcade and there are always motorcycles, besides us, a lot of them backfiring. So I was looking to the left. I guess there was a noise, but it didn't seem like any different noise really because there is so much noise, motorcycles and things. But then suddenly Governor Connally was yelling, "Oh, no, no, no."
Mr. RANKIN. Do you have any recollection of whether there were one or more shots?

Mrs. KENNEDY. Well, there must have been two because the one that made me turn around was Governor Connally yelling……… And it used to confuse me because first I remembered there were three and I used to think my husband didn't make any sound when he was shot. And Governor Connally screamed………. And then I read the other day that it was the same shot that hit them both. But I used to think if I only had been looking to the right I would have seen the first shot hit him, then I could have pulled him down, and then the second shot would not have hit him…….. But I heard Governor Connally yelling and that made me turn around, and as I turned to the right my husband was doing this [indicating with hand at neck]. He was receiving a bullet. And those are the only two I remember. And I read there was a third shot. But I don't know. Just those two.

[Martin Weidmann]

Martin Weidmann:  "Oh yes it's goodbye."

I thought you weren't going to waste any more time on me. Among many other things you are not a man of your word. Not an admirable trait but not surprising.

Good bye again Martin.

I thought you weren't going to waste any more time on me.

It isn't the first time that you were wrong. You do understand that whatever you think is far removed from my word, right?

I said goodbye to you in one particular conversation at your own request;

I guess this is Good Bye Martin.

and I did so when it became clear to all you had left to offer were the same BS debunked arguments over and over again.

It seems you are the one who is not very good at keeping his word!

I will respond to any piece of crap you produce on the forum whenever I like. Deal with it!

[John Iacoletti]

All good questions, John.  Every question has pro and con that are supported by some statement. Always asking a question is not the same as providing an answer or alternative answer.

Providing an "answer" that you cannot support with reliable evidence is storytelling.  Your story doesn't just automatically win by default.

If the assassination rifle is not LHO's Carcano, what weapon and then by whom. Provide chain of custody with your proof that the rifle was fired during the assassination.

Why, when you cannot do that with regard to Oswald?  It's your claim -- you support it.

Was Barnett looking for an escaping assassin behind the TSBD or not?

I believe he said fire escape.  But you can't just assume that he could see the back of the building during any possible time that either A&S or an assassin was exiting the building.  We don't know when or how the assassin left.

Garner was at her desk during the assassination and only later moved to the window to stand by A & S. After that her math does not work. If A & S were ahead of Oswald, LHO would have run by Garner standing by the stairs because she claims to have seen Baker and Truly .

Talk about a circular argument.  That's the whole point.  Garner would have seen Oswald if he came down during the time frame that he needed to have come down -- if he was up there in the first place.  So would Adams and Styles.  None of them saw or heard anybody.

Linnie Mae Randle's account of the bag being long enough to almost touch the ground was repeated in her WC Testimony.

That tells us exactly nothing about how long the package was.

What went through Frazier's mind when he realized he brought the assassin to the TSBD and had witnessed him carrying the rifle into the building. He has attempted to distance himself from the rifle and bag since.

Are you calling Frazier a liar?  Interesting.  Then you don't get to use anything else he said about curtain rods, or lunch, or anything else.

Canning's analysis is completely supported by his interpretations of the position of the car's occupants. It is all in his testimony. He makes allowances for interpretations. That is the reason he has an oval around the window. At no point in time is he stating it is a perfect pin point line.

It's called making the evidence fit the narrative.