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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2022, 06:40:12 PM »
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If you read Kellerman's testimony he states that he had turned and seen that JFK was hit, he then turned back, "grabbed the mike" and started talking into it. As he was talking the "flurry of shells" came into the car. I get the impression (and it's only an opinion) that Kellerman said "Let's get out of here" just before the headshot (just before the "flurry").

Do the films show Kellerman reaching for the mic to make the call before the headshot?

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Offline Jake Maxwell

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2022, 06:46:32 PM »
I checked the Zapruder... It does appear to me that Kellerman has the mic before the headshot...

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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2022, 08:55:51 PM »
I checked the Zapruder... It does appear to me that Kellerman has the mic before the headshot...

Oh really?








Altgens 6 is inconclusive which hand is on the mic/radio. Although it does show Kellerman to be at the far right of the limo (staring into the side mirror). He hasn't moved over towards the limo mic which is next to Greer's steering wheel.

Possibly Greer changes the mic from the right hand to his left hand. below



Which then gives you Greer holding the mic in his left hand



I don't think it was ever answered if there are two mics in the limo on that day

Greer told FBI agents Sibert & O'Neill on the night of the autopsy, during an ''informal interview''.

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Greer stated that he first heard what he thought was
possibly a motorcycle backfire and glanced around and noticed
that the President had evidentlv been hit. He thereafter qot
on the radio and communicated with the other vehicles, stating
that they desired to get the President to the hospital immediately.
 

Greer denied making those comments to FBI agents Sibert & O'Neill when question by Arlen Specter. Greer stated only Kellerman used the limo mic! from 'Testimony of William Robert Greer, Special Agent, U.S. Secret Service, March 9, 1964, -214a131:'



Greer covering Kellerman's ass, or worse?

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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2022, 09:23:22 PM »
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This is what I see...

First pic - Kellerman... closest to the camera... turning back to see Kennedy leaning over... apparently “hit”...

Second pic - Kellerman on the mic...

If you watch the film on “The Lost Bullet” version of Zapruder (10:26) - which seems to be the best, or at least as good as other renditions... I think you will notice the order... Kellerman turns back... then gets on the mic... then shortly thereafter... Kennedy is hit...

HOWEVER... Here is what is most disturbing and significant to me:
Greer turns back to watch the president... until the headshot...
I think Greer was at the anticipated planned location in the street... and he had slowed the car... and was expecting Kennedy to be assassinated... Kellerman might have been certain... Greer was not...
I think they were both in on the dirty deed...
Greer’s rubber-necking until the shot is a “dead” giveaway... in my opinion...
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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2022, 09:46:15 PM »

This gif seems to show Kellerman talking on the mic... hand to left ear...

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Offline Robert Reeves

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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2022, 09:51:17 PM »
This gif seems to show Kellerman talking on the mic... hand to left ear...

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Possibly, but does he take it from Greer's hand? his left hand

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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2022, 09:54:04 PM »

The outer surface appears to me scratched or chipped...
It seems I recall testimony from 2 or 3 who saw the windshield up close... and they said it appeared to have a hole in it...
This most likely... and very easily... could be verified... with a contemporary expert ballistics analysis...


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Re: Cracked windshield and ballistics experts...
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2022, 09:55:15 PM »

Yes, hard to see that very well...

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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2022, 09:55:15 PM »