Physical evidence of the first shot (miss)

[Brian Roselle]

Richard,

I'm not sure I can post the pictures I've found in the format I would like, so I decided to drop them in a pdf with the photos aligned in time. Hopefully this will display and additionally allow some direct zooming in on your screen.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tsj1RnCbMm5rbo_JtdcAc7RY-M8jVttT/view?usp=sharing

I dug around and found versions of the photos that do not readily show the mark, and aligned beside versions of the ones that do. It appears to me to be a function of the resolution and lighting of the photos. If its a mark, I think this would suggest a very shallow surface mark that needs good lighting to visually bring out.

I'm not totally sure on the source of the last couple of sets. I think the last set, with the jump seats moved may be from the FBI or Secret Service. I'm pretty sure the next to last set are FBI versions. One of those appears to perhaps have an inspector with a lab coat in the front seat. I wonder if this could be Frazier looking at the windshield.

[Charles Collins]

Richard,

I'm not sure I can post the pictures I've found in the format I would like, so I decided to drop them in a pdf with the photos aligned in time. Hopefully this will display and additionally allow some direct zooming in on your screen.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tsj1RnCbMm5rbo_JtdcAc7RY-M8jVttT/view?usp=sharing

I dug around and found versions of the photos that do not readily show the mark, and aligned beside versions of the ones that do. It appears to me to be a function of the resolution and lighting of the photos. If its a mark, I think this would suggest a very shallow surface mark that needs good lighting to visually bring out.

I'm not totally sure on the source of the last couple of sets. I think the last set, with the jump seats moved may be from the FBI or Secret Service. I'm pretty sure the next to last set are FBI versions. One of those appears to perhaps have an inspector with a lab coat in the front seat. I wonder if this could be Frazier looking at the windshield.

Great work! This does appear to be something that should have interested the investigators. Wow!

[John Iacoletti]

We have all seen the Murray photo of the detectives looking at the concrete surrounding manhole cover on the south side of Elm Street. They were investigating what appeared to be a mark left by a bullet that grazed the concrete. This area is inline with the position of James Tague who was grazed on the cheek by a piece of this bullet or a piece of the concrete curb adjacent to him. That curb was apparently also hit by a part of the bullet, which apparently skipped from the manhole area to that curb.

Except Tague said that he wasn't hit by the first shot.

[Mitch Todd]

Great work! This does appear to be something that should have interested the investigators. Wow!

For reference, look at this photo of the car as it sat at Parkland:

[Charles Collins]

For reference, look at this photo of the car as it sat at Parkland:

Yes, thanks Mitch. Brian shows that image twice in his pdf. One version is at a higher resolution than the other one.

[Charles Collins]

Except Tague said that he wasn't hit by the first shot.

Tague has said a lot of inconsistent things. I believe that he really doesn’t know which shot it was. Therefore, I personally am not going to rule out the first shot based on Tague’s guesses. And it really doesn’t matter to me whether or not you want to believe whatever the “story du jour” from Tague.




FYI:

 Tague testified he heard three shots and “guesses” and “believes” the bullet that struck the curb was the second one (7 H 555)

 

[Richard Smith]

Tague has said a lot of inconsistent things. I believe that he really doesn’t know which shot it was. Therefore, I personally am not going to rule out the first shot based on Tague’s guesses. And it really doesn’t matter to me whether or not you want to believe whatever the “story du jour” from Tague.




FYI:

 Tague testified he heard three shots and “guesses” and “believes” the bullet that struck the curb was the second one (7 H 555)

I always wondered if he was even wounded during the assassination or made this story up on the fly.  He admitted having some preexisting facial injury.  He tried to peddle some film footage of a race car crash to a reporter.  Not exactly a guy who missed an opportunity to make a buck.

[Andrew Mason]

Arguing where the first shot hit the road is like arguing about how many angels fit on the head of a pin. The first shot struck JFK, according to the evidence.

Also, the MythBusters video shows that a 1200 fps 115 grain jacketed bullet from a handgun is not going to hit asphalt without leaving a trace. So it is obvious that a 2000 fp 170 grain jacketed bullet, with more than four times the energy of the Mythbuster's bullet, will leave a noticeable divot in the pavement.  Does anyone seriously think the FBI could not find such a mark in the pavement if it really existed?