Really Richard?
I've subjected the memory of the eight officers who place the lunch remains where the SN is (3 of them specifically placing the remains on top of the SN), to some kind of "pedantic review".
Well, I challenged Charles to analyse my interpretation of the officers statements so he could clarify where I was going wrong.
Instead of taking up that challenge he just slid away in a cloud of denial, hiding behind the same empty, toothless generalisations you specialise in (re: the post I'm responding to)
So I throw the gauntlet down to you to take on the challenge.
In Reply #98 I present my interpretations of the statements made by eight officers regarding the location of the lunch remains.
Highlight where I've subjected these statements to a "pedantic review" or STFU.
There was more than one spot where chicken bones were located. Alyea suggests the media influenced the officers to have claimed to have seen them.
Montgomery and Shelley's explanation of seeing and having knowledge of multiple people having been eating chicken on the 6th floor that morning explains the two different locations of chicken bones as reported by the detectives and news people.
Mr. BALL. Now, was there some more chicken some place there also?
Mr. MONTGOMERY. Yes--there would be some more chicken over here around where the hulls were found.
Bill Shelley noticed someone eating chicken up on the 6th floot way before the assassination. He thought it was from Givens. Givens denies it but no one ever sees Givens eat his lunch and he doesn't even know where he ate it.
Maybe this is not true.
Mr. BELIN. I want to backtrack a minute before we come to the shots. When did you eat lunch?
Mr. GIVENS. When did I eat lunch? I ate lunch after. Lets see, no; I ate lunch before I went up there, because I stood outside and ate my sandwich standing out there.
Mr. BALL - Now, did you find any chicken bones up there or see any?
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes, I went up later on that day; I believe after we had gotten back from City Hall with someone, I don't remember who it was, one of the officers and they got them.
Mr. BALL - They did what?
Mr. SHELLEY - They got the bones.
Mr. BALL - Where were they?
Mr. SHELLEY - They were on the third--yeah, it would be the third window from the southeast corner.
Mr. BALL - And were they in a sack?
Mr. SHELLEY - Laying on a sack.
Mr. BALL - Laying on a sack?
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes, sir; with a coke bottle sitting in the window.Mr. BALL - Did you see any other chicken bones anyplace around there?
Mr. SHELLEY - No, sir; that's all.
Mr. BALL - That's the only ones?
Mr. SHELLEY - That's all.
Mr. BALL - Did you see anybody eating fried chicken on that floor that morning?
Mr. SHELLEY - At one time I think I said I did but Charles Givens was the guy that was eating and he was further on over toward the west side and he was eating a sandwich so he says.Mr. BALL - Now you say that you thought that you had seen someone had eaten fried chicken that morning?
Mr. SHELLEY - I thought I had; those colored boys are always eating chicken.
Mr. BALL - Do you think you did or do you know?
Mr. SHELLEY - I asked Charles Givens whether it was him that was eating and he said it was a sandwich.
Mr. BALL - Was that before you went down for lunch?
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes, sir; it was pretty early in the morning, about 9:30.
Mr. BALL - Where was it?
Mr. SHELLEY - It was two-thirds across the building toward the west because I didn't put plywood over there and he didn't get too far from where we were actually working.
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Tom Alyea:
"..... these officers heard the report, that stemmed from WFAA-TV's incorrect announcement that the chicken bones were found on the 6th floor. This officer or officers perhaps used this information to formulate their presence at the scene."Alyea makes this statement for an entirely different reason, but it explains why Mooney would claim to have seen the chicken bones where he said he did. The thing he fails to see, or mention is the sack or pop bottle. From where he was standing while securing the snipers nest he most likely never seen the bones over by the other set of windows to the West.
