Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Truly's False Roll  (Read 31218 times)

Offline Bill Chapman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6513
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2022, 08:48:05 PM »
Advertisement

billchapman

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2022, 08:48:05 PM »


Online Charles Collins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3792
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2022, 01:38:38 AM »
Another person who appears to confirm the police were conducting the roll call/lineup:


Mr. LIEBELER - Did you let anybody out of the building after you got there?
Mr. BARNETT - No, sir; until they were authorized.
Mr. LIEBELER - Who was in a position to authorize people to come in and out?
Mr. BARNETT - Well, of course, for sometime no one left except city, county, and Federal officers, and then after the people in the building were took into the small room there and questioned, they were brought to the door by a lieutenant, which I don't remember his name, but that was sometime after, and he brought them to the door and told us to let them out.

Offline Alan Ford

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4820
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2022, 10:28:46 PM »
Another person who appears to confirm the police were conducting the roll call/lineup:


Mr. LIEBELER - Did you let anybody out of the building after you got there?
Mr. BARNETT - No, sir; until they were authorized.
Mr. LIEBELER - Who was in a position to authorize people to come in and out?
Mr. BARNETT - Well, of course, for sometime no one left except city, county, and Federal officers, and then after the people in the building were took into the small room there and questioned, they were brought to the door by a lieutenant, which I don't remember his name, but that was sometime after, and he brought them to the door and told us to let them out.

The Martin & Hughes films show Mr Billy Lovelady and Mr Bonnie Ray Williams out on the steps. How soon after the shooting is this?



Mr. BALL. Did you go out of the building shortly after you came downstairs?
Mr. WILLIAMS. They wouldn't let anybody out of the building.
(...)
Mr. McCLOY. Were you physically kept from leaving the building when you got downstairs? Did you try to go out of the building?
Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; I wasn't trying to go out of the building because there wasn't any use of trying to, because at the time we arrived on the first floor, I heard an officer shout out and say, "No one leave the building."

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2022, 10:28:46 PM »


Online Charles Collins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3792
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2022, 10:52:14 PM »
The Martin & Hughes films show Mr Billy Lovelady and Mr Bonnie Ray Williams out on the steps. How soon after the shooting is this?



Mr. BALL. Did you go out of the building shortly after you came downstairs?
Mr. WILLIAMS. They wouldn't let anybody out of the building.
(...)
Mr. McCLOY. Were you physically kept from leaving the building when you got downstairs? Did you try to go out of the building?
Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; I wasn't trying to go out of the building because there wasn't any use of trying to, because at the time we arrived on the first floor, I heard an officer shout out and say, "No one leave the building."


If I remember correctly, Barnett said he thought it was within 3 to 4 minutes.

Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10815
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2022, 12:19:48 AM »
A roll call is a check of a complete list of names to see who is and who is not there.  Simply gathering a list of the people who are there and getting their contact info is NOT a roll call.  Many employees did not return after lunch.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2022, 12:19:48 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10815
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2022, 12:21:17 AM »
As I understand it, the company records for Oswald didn't have the Irving address. The address was for Elsbeth Street.
I could be mistaken about that but, if not, one must wonder where the Irving address came from.


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10815
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2022, 12:23:29 AM »
The police don't just arrest people, how old are you?

They just arrested Oswald for murder with no probable cause whatsoever.

Offline Alan Ford

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4820
Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2022, 12:48:52 AM »
If I remember correctly, Barnett said he thought it was within 3 to 4 minutes.

My apologies, Mr Collins, I should have worded my question more clearly------------------------I was asking how long after the shooting the Martin/Hughes clip was taken

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Truly's False Roll
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2022, 12:48:52 AM »