Truly's False Roll

[Dan O'meara]

Yeah sure, just got a little side-tracked.

Anyway, Truly just saw Oswald skulking about at the 2nd floor lunchroom and simply remembered him, wouldn't you?

JohnM

"Skulking" 

The guy can't even get a coke without looking dodgy.

[John Mytton]

"Skulking" 

The guy can't even get a coke without looking dodgy.

OK let's say Oswald was on the first floor in the lunchroom as the President went by and he hears gun shots, police sirens and much commotion outside, but instead of initially finding out what's going on, he chooses at that exact point in time to go and get a coke, that in my book is a bit dodgy.

JohnM

[Dan O'meara]

OK let's say Oswald was on the first floor in the lunchroom as the President went by and he hears gun shots, police sirens and much commotion outside, but instead of initially finding out what's going on, he chooses at that exact point in time to go and get a coke, that in my book is a bit dodgy.

JohnM

He's not just some guy minding his business.
He's up to his eyeballs in the events of the day,
Still not on topic though.

[John Mytton]

He's not just some guy minding his business.
He's up to his eyeballs in the events of the day,

It's quite simple, a man who hated authority, hated his country, tried to defect to the enemy, attempted political change, tried assassinating General Walker, and finally just took his rifle to work and shot the President. There was no one else involved.

JohnM

[Jerry Freeman]

As usual...this thread has wobbled off topic like a drunk sailor!
I want an answer to my very--- on topic question [Reply #80]

Which guy was "missing" Oswald and inquired of the other?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3385.msg124975.html#msg124975

[Richard Smith]

He's not just some guy minding his business.
He's up to his eyeballs in the events of the day,
Still not on topic though.

There is not enough information to recreate the event with absolute certainty because it was not the "roll call" that was important.  It was the fact that Oswald was missing.  And what constitutes a "roll call" is not a scientific matter that can have only one correct interpretation.  Truly had a memorable encounter with Oswald just after the assassination.  He saw a police officer pull a gun on Oswald while in search of the assassin of the President of the United States which had occurred just minutes beforehand.  Not something that happens every day.  As a result, he knew Oswald, unlike many others, was in the building instead of standing out on the street watching the motorcade.  If Truly had observed Oswald on the street during the motorcade, the fact that he was missing later would not have been as important since Oswald obviously could not have been the assassin.  The police gather information from the folks that are around.  Truly is present for this.  He notices that Oswald is missing during this roll call-like process.  Oswald comes to mind because he IS missing and the dramatic encounter in the lunch room just after the assassination.  Truly asks around and no one has seen Oswald.  He reports it not knowing whether Oswald has anything to do with this or not.  This entire matter becomes summarized as a roll call.  No one anticipates any pedantic nitpicking of every word and event relating to how Oswald is noticed missing because it does not occur to anyone that this is important.  Because it is not. 

[Richard Smith]

There is not enough information to recreate the event with absolute certainty because it was not the "roll call" that was important.

"because"?

It was the fact that Oswald was missing.

No, it was of no relevance really as Truly had plenty of order fillers.

And what constitutes a "roll call" is not a scientific matter that can have only one correct interpretation.

BS, the definition in the dictionary is quite concise, reading names from a list to check attendance.

Truly had a memorable encounter with Oswald just after the assassination.

Okey...

He saw a police officer pull a gun on Oswald while in search of the assassin of the President of the United States which had occurred just minutes beforehand.

Wrong, the gun was out already according to Baker.

Not something that happens every day.

Well, not in this context anyway.

As a result, he knew Oswald, unlike many others, was in the building instead of standing out on the street watching the motorcade.

Sure.

If Truly had observed Oswald on the street during the motorcade, the fact that he was missing later would not have been as important since Oswald obviously could not have been the assassin.

Double BS, Truly did not believe shots were fired from the building and at no time did he suspect Oswald as being involved with anything related to the assassination.

The police gather information from the folks that are around. Truly is present for this.

OK.

He notices that Oswald is missing during this roll call-like process.

OK.

Oswald comes to mind because he IS missing and the dramatic encounter in the lunch room just after the assassination.

BS, apparently is missing and there was no drama.

Truly asks around and no one has seen Oswald.

Not according to Frazier.

He reports it not knowing whether Oswald has anything to do with this or not.

Except there was no need to bother a police Captain with names and addresses when, as you state, there were already low ranking police around doing the roll call-like job.

This entire matter becomes summarized as a roll call. 

By some, apparently, including Truly according to a journalist.

No one anticipates any pedantic nitpicking of every word and event relating to how Oswald is noticed missing because it does not occur to anyone that this is important. 

Untill somebody begins picking over the evidence...

Because it is not.

Just because you can't deal with it doesn't mean it's not important; usual sloppy analysis riddled with errors

Spin us a yarn and tell us what you think happened and why it matters.  Remember you are not a CTer.