Colors of Blue and Gold

[Richard Smith]

"Europe" is checking out while Old Joe advocates for endless war with no solutions.

"Poland's prime minister said his country is no longer sending arms to Ukraine, a comment that appeared aimed at pressuring Kyiv and put Poland's status as a major source of military equipment in doubt as a trade dispute between the neighboring states escalates."

[Richard Smith]

The only good news in a long time is that General Milley is retiring.  He likely sees the writing on the wall with the upcoming election.  The rats are leaving the sinking ship.  At a minimum he committed treason by contacting China without proper authorization following Jan. 6.  At worst he is a war criminal.  He also pitched the idea of invading or attacking Iran to Trump.  Fortunately, Trump was the one modern American president who stood up to the military warmongers.  Good riddance to him.  As the war mongers leave, perhaps there will be more emphasis on bringing the endless war in Ukraine to an end rather than just funding it without any specified plan or objective. 

[Jon Banks]

The only good news in a long time is that General Milley is retiring.  He likely sees the writing on the wall with the upcoming election.  The rats are leaving the sinking ship.  At a minimum he committed treason by contacting China without proper authorization following Jan. 6.  At worst he is a war criminal.  He also pitched the idea of invading or attacking Iran to Trump.  Fortunately, Trump was the one modern American president who stood up to the military warmongers.  Good riddance to him.  As the war mongers leave, perhaps there will be more emphasis on bringing the endless war in Ukraine to an end rather than just funding it without any specified plan or objective.

Slovakia just elected a leader who opposes more aid to Ukraine. Poland is talking about slowing or stopping aid to Ukraine due to their domestic political opposition. Ukraine aid was stripped from the recent US budget passed in Congress.

Time isn't on Ukraine's side. They can't count on financial support from Western countries long-term. They will have to find some way to make peace or freeze the conflict.

[Joe Elliott]

Slovakia just elected a leader who opposes more aid to Ukraine. Poland is talking about slowing or stopping aid to Ukraine due to their domestic political opposition. Ukraine aid was stripped from the recent US budget passed in Congress.

Time isn't on Ukraine's side. They can't count on financial support from Western countries long-term. They will have to find some way to make peace or freeze the conflict.

Find some way to end the conflict. Like Poland should have found some way to end the conflict when Germany and Russia invaded in 1939. Not really practicable advice when an enemy just wants to wipe you our and occupy you.

What is practicable is more spending that matches and more than matches Russia's spending in this war. This is easily achievable. Russia's economy strength is a joke. And this prevents Russia from resuming its western drive, this time through the Baltic States. And discourages China from attacking Taiwan. And every dollar spent on Ukraine is much more efficiently used than the money we spend on our military.

Need to cut government expenses? Fine. Cut our spending on the U. S. Military. And keep up the spending on Ukraine. Those dollars are much more effectively spent.

Should Ukraine continue to suffer? That decision should be left to the Ukrainians, and not any poster on this forum who pretends to care about them but don't. If they want to quit, if they want to try their luck living under the Russians, i won't want to force them to do otherwise. But as long as they want to fight, we should support them.

But that decision needs to be made by the Ukrainians. Not by us because some people claim it would be more humane for them to give up.

[Richard Smith]

Find some way to end the conflict. Like Poland should have found some way to end the conflict when Germany and Russia invaded in 1939. Not really practicable advice when an enemy just wants to wipe you our and occupy you.

What is practicable is more spending that matches and more than matches Russia's spending in this war. This is easily achievable. Russia's economy strength is a joke. And this prevents Russia from resuming its western drive, this time through the Baltic States. And discourages China from attacking Taiwan. And every dollar spent on Ukraine is much more efficiently used than the money we spend on our military.

Need to cut government expenses? Fine. Cut our spending on the U. S. Military. And keep up the spending on Ukraine. Those dollars are much more effectively spent.

Should Ukraine continue to suffer? That decision should be left to the Ukrainians, and not any poster on this forum who pretends to care about them but don't. If they want to quit, if they want to try their luck living under the Russians, i won't want to force them to do otherwise. But as long as they want to fight, we should support them.

But that decision needs to be made by the Ukrainians. Not by us because some people claim it would be more humane for them to give up.

No one has suggested that Ukraine quit.  If they wish to continue fighting until their country is in complete ruin, that is up to them.  The point is that the US should not bankroll an endless war.  "Europe" has checked out.   The US has already provided Ukraine with three times the entire Russian military budget.  How much is enough?  How long does the war have to go on?  A decade like in Vietnam?  Two decades like in Afghanistan and Iraq?  The public was told in each of those instances that more time and money would result in some positive outcome.  It didn't.  Thousands or millions died senselessly.  Will Ukraine get a better deal next year than they could get today?  In five years?  Ten?  China does not view this as a deterrent to invading Taiwan.  They see the US mired in this conflict and now another in Israel.  They know that the US is stretched thin with all these disasters unfolding and that Old Joe is weak and incompetent.  They are not going to wait for a strong president like Trump. 

[Jon Banks]

Unwinnable for both sides at this point.

[Richard Smith]

Top story on Wash. Post regarding how the US and Ukraine have bungled the war.  Who could have guessed?  Old Joe just spent the money for endless war with no clear strategy for winning.  Just as long as it takes.  Why hasn't that worked?  LOL. 

[Richard Smith]

So with timing for the funding of the endless war in Ukraine running out and the Dems refusing to budge on the open border as a compromise, the FBI, AG, and Dept. of Homeland Security suddenly decide out of the blue to charge some hapless Russian soldiers with a war crime.  For allegedly making an American who was living in Ukraine dig a ditch and threatening him back in 2022!  Of course, there is no possibility of ever prosecuting this "crime" because they will never gain access to these men.  And they don't want them because it likely doesn't rise to such a crime.  It is only being done now for propaganda purposes to pressure the effort for more funding but imagine if that same standard for a war crime was applied to the US politicians who have waged endless war for decades.  Resulting in millions of dead.  Mostly under false pretenses.  Every modern president except Donald Trump would have been convicted.