The bus transfer

[Bill Brown]

Only one way to find out... accept the face to face debate and see what happens. I would love to see you "lose interest" in a live   face to face debate.

As I told you before...

Let me know the next time you're in the States. (yeah right)

[Bill Brown]

The Secret Service and the FBI reconstructed Oswald's steps (with the help of Cecil McWatters and William Whaley) in an attempt the determine the absolute earliest that Oswald could have reached the rooming house.

Based on McWatters' statement of where it was that Oswald boarded the bus (we know Oswald boarded that bus because he had McWatters' specific bus transfer and McWatters said he issued that transfer to only one woman and only one man), Oswald walked about seven blocks east (into the downtown area) after he left the Depository within three minutes of the shooting.

"So I gave her a transfer and opened the door and she was going out the gentleman I had picked up about two blocks (back) asked for a transfer and got off at the same place in the middle of the block where the lady did.  It was the intersection near Lamar Street, it was near Poydras and Lamar Street." -- Cecil McWatters

They concluded, based on what McWatters told them (along with the Secret Service agents and FBI agents walking the route in an average time of six and a half minutes), that Oswald boarded the bus around 12:40 near the intersection of Field St. and Elm St. and then, after being on the bus for no more than four minutes, Oswald got off the bus near Lamar St. and Elm St. (asking for the transfer as he got off the bus).

So now we have Oswald leaving the bus around 12:44.

Oswald then walked three to four short blocks to the Greyhound station where he boarded Whaley's cab.  This has Oswald entering the cab around 12:48.

They then, with Whaley, reconstructed the cab ride from the Greyhound to the intersection of Beckley and Neely (Oswald got out of the cab on Beckley just north of the intersection with Neely).  They concluded (using a stopwatch) that the cab ride took five minutes and thirty seconds.

So now we have Oswald exiting Whaley's cab on Beckley at 12:53-12:54.

Still using the stopwatch, they concluded that it was a five minute and forty-five second walk from the point Oswald exited the cab back to the rooming house.

I think Oswald got to the rooming house between 12:58 and 1:00 and was back in his room just long enough to grab a jacket before hurrying out the door, zipping up the jacket as he went out the door.

[John Mytton]

Nah.  The whole thing is stupid.  Weidmann is only grandstanding and, according to all the comments I've read, almost everyone knows it.

Weidmann:  "Hey Brown, fly halfway across the world.  I'll reimburse you when you get here.  Trust me.  What's that?  You don't trust me?  Awww, you're just afraid of me."

Lame.

It's worse than Lame, it's absolutely psychotic!



I experienced "globetrotting" Weidmann when he pretended to come to Australia, I initially told him "I would love to meet you while you are in Sydney" and actually I was looking forward to having a beer and showing off the best and prettiest city in the World but alas he was full of his usual BS.



Now with Weidmann's excuses and continually shifting the goal posts in the rules of this "face to face" Bill Brown vs Martin Weidmann debate just shows his utter desperation in avoiding this confrontation, it's as if he lives in a cocoon and can't see that nobody here takes him even in the slightest bit seriously and everyone is just laughing at him. Watching Weidmann squirm his way out of the debate by making more and more ridiculous demands was pure comedy gold.
And the weak excuses for avoiding an online debate don't even make sense, like as if Bill would have or even need a JFKA specialist or a team of specialists just off camera to feed Bill information but if it was really necessary it would be easy enough to prove that Bill was alone, it's just a cowards way of avoiding the debate.
And the flying halfway across the World and then expecting Weidmann to be there with a cheque to pay you back is the cherry on top of this hilarious masterpiece, it's so diabolical, it just might work!? Muhahaha!



JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

Nah.  The whole thing is stupid.  Weidmann is only grandstanding and, according to all the comments I've read, almost everyone knows it.

Weidmann:  "Hey Brown, fly halfway across the world.  I'll reimburse you when you get here.  Trust me.  What's that?  You don't trust me?  Awww, you're just afraid of me."

Lame.

Just what I thought. Running away as fast as you can.

Nobody asked you to fly halfway across the world, nor did I say anything about you having to pay anything up front.

But I understand you need to invent stuff to chicken out....

[Martin Weidmann]

I experienced "globetrotting" Weidmann when he pretended to come to Australia, I initially told him "I would love to meet you while you are in Sydney" and actually I was looking forward to having a beer and showing off the best and prettiest city in the World but alas he was full of his usual BS.

JohnM

Let's get the story right, shall we? Yes, you said you would meet me but you never provided me with a phone number to contact you and did not respond to my PM on the old board. When I then tried to get your contact information through other means it turned out there wasn't a John Mytton registered anywhere in the entire greater Sydney area.

[John Mytton]

JohnM

[Dan O'meara]

Just what I thought. Running away as fast as you can.

Nobody asked you to fly halfway across the world, nor did I say anything about you having to pay anything up front.

But I understand you need to invent stuff to chicken out....

Why don't you go to Bill?

[Richard Smith]

Such hostility.

If you can't handle it, stop provoking it with your lies and false accusations.

And you want people to travel to "Europe" to meet you face to face?

Said the idiot, who keeps on repeating something that was never discussed. You really need to get over your obsession with where and how I live. It's not good for your sanity and, let's face it, I can't be blamed for your miserable living conditions. Envy will never get you anything similar to my lifestyle. Get over it, will ya!

You also indicated in your last post that flying would not be necessary ( i.e. "There was never any flying to Europe involved. You made that up, of course.") but now there would "always be flying involved'?  You are really losing it. 

Are you under the impression that there are no flights within the US? Talk about losing it.... you've lost both; the argument and your mind!

Btw, you do understand that people can read for themselves what I actually wrote, don't you?

I said there would not be any flying to Europe involved, not that flying "would not be necessary" as you falsely claimed.

Why does anyone have to travel at all - by air or otherwise - when this could be done online?

Already answered over and over again. I'm sorry that you lack the brain capacity to understand it. Why does Brown fly to Dallas to meet his Facebook buddies?

I know the topic of debating Bill Brown makes you hysterical

Says the guy who actually believes he can read people's minds... 

Imagine meeting a guy this angry guy face-to-face?  Your silly excuses about Bill getting "help" from someone during an online debate is paranoid and ridiculous.  And why care?  This would not be a competition between yourself and Bill but a debate of the facts and information relating to the JFK assassination.  Why would it matter to you whether that information came from Bill or some mysterious person whispering in his ear?  You have all the canned contrarian responses from your endless time spent on this forum.  Just repeat over and over that any evidence that lends itself to Oswald's guilt is just "assumptions" and "opinions."  That has been the totality of your contribution to this forum.