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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #184 on: May 13, 2022, 04:44:36 PM »
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Your pathetically childish obsession with this guy, Roger, as well as your complete inability to have a normal conversation is also duly noted  Thumb1:

Am I speaking to Norman Bates or "Mother" today?  Talk about obsession.  You are trying to pinpoint events from nearly sixty years ago down to the nanosecond in a desperate effort to cast doubt that Oswald could have been at the scene of the Tippit murder when numerous witnesses place him there.  This crime was committed in broad daylight in front of numerous witnesses. These witnesses confirm that Oswald was there.  He was arrested a short distance away with the gun and the same TWO different brands of ammo used in the crime.  Your pedantic analysis of every second is hilarious.  There is no doubt that LHO was the person at the scene of the crime.  As a result, your timeline is not relevant to that issue.  It only has relevance as to when Oswald committed this crime.  Not whether he did so.

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #184 on: May 13, 2022, 04:44:36 PM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #185 on: May 13, 2022, 06:23:04 PM »
Am I speaking to Norman Bates or "Mother" today?  Talk about obsession.  You are trying to pinpoint events from nearly sixty years ago down to the nanosecond in a desperate effort to cast doubt that Oswald could have been at the scene of the Tippit murder when numerous witnesses place him there.  This crime was committed in broad daylight in front of numerous witnesses. These witnesses confirm that Oswald was there.  He was arrested a short distance away with the gun and the same TWO different brands of ammo used in the crime.  Your pedantic analysis of every second is hilarious.  There is no doubt that LHO was the person at the scene of the crime.  As a result, your timeline is not relevant to that issue.  It only has relevance as to when Oswald committed this crime.  Not whether he did so.

Have you got anything of value to say or is this diatribe all you've got?

You are trying to pinpoint events from nearly sixty years ago down to the nanosecond 

I am not trying to do anything of the kind. I am actually doing it, using the actual audio recording. Too bad that you don't like me using actual evidence.

As a result, your timeline is not relevant to that issue.

Indeed, the timeline I have presented, so far, is only relevant to determine whether Callaway helped load Tippit into the ambulance before or after his radio call.

Everything else is only in your paranoid mind, putting your anxiety about the possible consequences for your "Oswald did it" fairytale on full display. It's pathetic and sad at the same time.

An honest person would not be afraid of evidence being examined, so why are you so concerned about it?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2022, 10:55:18 PM by Martin Weidmann »

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #186 on: May 13, 2022, 06:25:12 PM »
Martin, you said you believe the Tippit shooting occurred around 1:09 to 1:10, if I recall correctly.

In your opinion, how long was Tippit lying in the street before anyone called the police?

How long after the shooting (which you believe to be 1:09/1:10) was Benavides attempting to key the mic on the squad car radio?

How many minutes were the police tapes off by, i.e. if Bowley reported the shooting at 1:17:40, how close was the real time to 1:17:40?

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #186 on: May 13, 2022, 06:25:12 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #187 on: May 13, 2022, 07:51:11 PM »
Never let facts get in the way of a stupid remark, right Chappy?

Callaway said he did exactly that.

When he arrived at scene, Callaway first checked on Tippit. He then ran to the police car to report the shooting on the police radio and at that time the ambulance arrived. Callaway's call only lasted a few seconds and after that he returned to Tippit and helped to load his body into the ambulance.

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« on: April 14, 2022, 04:37:24 AM »

Bill Brown


I say Ted Callaway helped load Tippit's body into the ambulance and then went over to the patrol car radio to report the shooting to the police dispatcher.

Martin Weidmann says I am wrong, that Callaway got on the patrol car radio first... and then helped load the body into the ambulance.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #188 on: May 13, 2022, 08:22:09 PM »
Martin, you said you believe the Tippit shooting occurred around 1:09 to 1:10, if I recall correctly.

In your opinion, how long was Tippit lying in the street before anyone called the police?

How long after the shooting (which you believe to be 1:09/1:10) was Benavides attempting to key the mic on the squad car radio?

How many minutes were the police tapes off by, i.e. if Bowley reported the shooting at 1:17:40, how close was the real time to 1:17:40?

John Iacoletti and I asked you a question and we have been waiting for the answer for nearly two weeks now!


Evidence please that 602 was “trying to contact the dispatcher to tell him they were en route to the hospital” when he just said “602” and the dispatcher didn’t respond.

“Dale Myers thinks so” is not evidence.

So, I'll gladly answer your questions as soon as you have answered the question above. Fair enough?

On second thought, I'll answer this one now;

How long after the shooting (which you believe to be 1:09/1:10) was Benavides attempting to key the mic on the squad car radio?

Roughly 30 to 45 seconds after the shooting. Benavides said that, after the shots, he stayed in his car until the killer had gone. We know from one of your own YT videos that the killer would only have taken about 30 seconds to get from the scene to the corner with Patton and disappear out of Benavides' line of sight.

Btw, you have claimed in the past (iirc) that Benavides tried to get the radio to work for at least some two minutes, but closer analysis of the actual audio recording does not confirm or support this. It also does not match with the most probable timeline for Callaway.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2022, 10:44:30 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #188 on: May 13, 2022, 08:22:09 PM »


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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #189 on: May 13, 2022, 08:23:23 PM »
Stop dodging

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« on: April 14, 2022, 04:37:24 AM »

Bill Brown


I say Ted Callaway helped load Tippit's body into the ambulance and then went over to the patrol car radio to report the shooting to the police dispatcher.

Martin Weidmann says I am wrong, that Callaway got on the patrol car radio first... and then helped load the body into the ambulance.

Try to understand what I have written before jumping in with anymore stupid comments.

Callaway checked Tippit first, saw the wound to his head and concluded that he was dead. He then went to the police car and told the dispatcher exactly that; that he thought the officer was dead. By then the ambulance had arrived and it's driver saw Tippit lying in the street covered by a blanket or jacket. When he pulled the cover off, he noticed it was a police officer, so he ran back to his ambulance to let the dispatcher know the victim was a police officer. He couldn't get through, because Callaway was on the radio, and returned to the ambulance. Then Callaway, who had finished his short call, and Bowley both helped to load Tippit into the ambulance.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2022, 08:36:14 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #190 on: May 13, 2022, 08:54:10 PM »
Have you got anything of value to say or is this diatribe all you've got?

“Richard” doesn’t think any topic is worth discussing, other than his unsubstantiated opinion that Oswald did it. Why is he even here?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #191 on: May 14, 2022, 12:37:18 AM »
Try to understand what I have written before jumping in with anymore stupid comments.

Callaway checked Tippit first, saw the wound to his head and concluded that he was dead. He then went to the police car and told the dispatcher exactly that; that he thought the officer was dead. By then the ambulance had arrived and it's driver saw Tippit lying in the street covered by a blanket or jacket. When he pulled the cover off, he noticed it was a police officer, so he ran back to his ambulance to let the dispatcher know the victim was a police officer. He couldn't get through, because Callaway was on the radio, and returned to the ambulance. Then Callaway, who had finished his short call, and Bowley both helped to load Tippit into the ambulance.

Stop dodging

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Re: Brown/Weidmann, Mini-Debate?
« Reply #191 on: May 14, 2022, 12:37:18 AM »