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Online David Von Pein

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« Reply #128 on: June 14, 2022, 03:45:16 AM »
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There is no conclusive evidence that proves that the rifle found at the TSBD belonged to Oswald, nor has it ever been proven that this particular rifle was ever fired on 11/22/63.

Above we have two of the most ridiculous (and provably false) statements ever made by a JFK conspiracy believer.

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Re: Linking The Murders Of JFK And J.D. Tippit
« Reply #128 on: June 14, 2022, 03:45:16 AM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #129 on: June 14, 2022, 03:47:45 AM »
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'Don't know about John, but those witness identifications during a pathetically conducted line up mean very little.
_Either Oswald looked like the guy they saw or he didn't. And nothing short of a set of Oswald clones would get you guys to finally stop p*ssing yourselves

The biggest give away is that normally when 5 people watch the same car accident, you will get five different version of what actually happened.
_Are you ever going to say something original?

Here, in this case, we are supposed to believe that all the witnesses made the exact same identification.
_We already know what you lot believe.. that nothing is knowable, nothing is provable, and nothing is believable.

I once watched a robbery happening before my eyes. I saw the guy walking behind a girl and instantly knew something was up. He then ran up to her and pulled her phone out of her hands. It all happened very quickly and when the police asked me if I would be able to positively identify the man, I said no simply because it all happened so quickly. Yet, in this case, the Davis sisters who only saw the killer run past their front door for no more than two or three seconds made a positive identification? Give me a break!
_You are pitting your reactions/observations against two other individuals. Are you some sort of comic-book hero to be measured against? Besides, others said that he was trotting away, not running.. and had to scale a hedge to vacate that yard, iirc.
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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #130 on: June 14, 2022, 08:13:04 AM »
I agree completely.  This case might have been a bit more of a "whodunnit" if Oswald had remained in the TSBD.  But he didn't.  He left in a hurry, got his revolver and shot the first person who tried to stop him. The firing pin marks on the shells establish conclusively that they were fired from Oswald's revolver.

Then, in the Texas Theatre, he assaulted his arresting officer and pulled his gun from his waist band, said "Well, it's all over now" and pressed the trigger.  Not the actions of someone who had no reason to fear arrest.

Well, you’ve done a good job parroting the narrative. Demonstrating that it’s actually true…not so much.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Linking The Murders Of JFK And J.D. Tippit
« Reply #131 on: June 14, 2022, 08:19:39 AM »
And the fact that more than half-a-dozen witnesses positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald as either the man who shot J.D. Tippit or as the man they saw leaving the immediate area of the shooting with a gun in his hand doesn't mean anything to you, does it John?

It doesn’t mean much, given how egregiously unfair and biased the lineups were.

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And the fact that this same man named Lee Harvey Oswald was also the Book Depository employee whose rifle was found in the Depository on 11/22/63, which was proven to be the rifle that murdered President Kennedy, also means zilch to you, correct John?

That means absolutely nothing because you’re wrong about any weapon being proven to have murdered Kennedy. And you have no evidence whatsoever that C2766 was ever in Oswald’s possession.

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A kindergarten student with massive learning disabilities could easily tie these two crimes together.

Only if they’re naive enough to believe the stuff you make up.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Linking The Murders Of JFK And J.D. Tippit
« Reply #132 on: June 14, 2022, 08:21:55 AM »
Above we have two of the most ridiculous (and provably false) statements ever made by a JFK conspiracy believer.

Then let’s see your proof. Not your assumptions— PROOF.

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« Reply #132 on: June 14, 2022, 08:21:55 AM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Linking The Murders Of JFK And J.D. Tippit
« Reply #133 on: June 14, 2022, 10:54:06 AM »
Above we have two of the most ridiculous (and provably false) statements ever made by a JFK conspiracy believer.

First of all, I don't believe in the fairytale you call the WC report. Secondly, I don't have a conspiracy theory, nor do I care if it was a conspiracy or not. I just want to know what really happened.

And don't be a coward by just ridiculously claiming that my statements are "provably false". Prove them to be false, if you can.
But you won't, because you can't, and you know it. Hence the ridiculous claim.
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Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #134 on: June 14, 2022, 02:04:58 PM »
Oh, it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen.
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green.
My father was an Ulster man, proud Protestant was he.
My mother was a Catholic girl, from county Cork was she.
They were married in two churches, lived happily enough,
Until the day that I was born and things got rather tough.
Oh, it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen.
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green.
Baptized by Father Riley, I was rushed away by car,
To be made a little Orangeman, me father's shining star.
I was christened "David Anthony, " but still, inspite of that,
To me father, I was William, while my mother called me Pat.
Oh, it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen.
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green.
With Mother every Sunday, to Mass I'd proudly stroll.
Then after that, the Orange lodge would try to save my soul.
For both sides tried to claim me, but i was smart because
I'd play the flute or play the harp, depending where I was.
Oh, it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen.
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green.
One day me Ma's relations came round to visit me.
Just as my father's kinfolk were all sitting down to tea.
We tried to smooth things over, but they all began to fight.
And me, being strictly neutral, I bashed everyone in sight.
Oh, it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen.
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green.
My parents never could agree about my type of school.
My learning was all done at home, that's why I'm such a fool.
They've both passed on, God rest 'em, but left me caught between
That awful color problem of the Orange and the Green.
Oh it is the biggest mix up that you have ever seen
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green.
Yes it is the biggest mix up that you have ever seen
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was green.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Linking The Murders Of JFK And J.D. Tippit
« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2022, 02:57:05 PM »
First of all, I don't believe in the fairytale you call the WC report. Secondly, I don't have a conspiracy theory, nor do I care if it was a conspiracy or not. I just want to know what really happened.

Dave refers to anybody who doesn’t accept his assumptions and speculations as a “conspiracy theorist”.

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Re: Linking The Murders Of JFK And J.D. Tippit
« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2022, 02:57:05 PM »