A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket

[Bill Chapman]

Great stuff... so you've got two witnesses who were not paying much attention and who say different things.

Pray tell, why would you take Earlene's word over Buell's?

Or shall we call it inconclusive? Oh wait, you can't have that, can you now, because it means you have nothing to show that Oswald left the rooming house wearing a jacket.

It looks like you've just shot yourself in the foot, yet again.....

'Great stuff... so you've got two witnesses who were not paying much attention and who say different things'
_ I don't 'got' either them. Get a grip.

'Pray tell, why would you take Earlene's word over Buell's?'
_Where did you get that little nugget?

'Or shall we call it inconclusive? Oh wait, you can't have that, can you now, because it means you have nothing to show that Oswald left the rooming house wearing a jacket'
_You just called Earlene a liar.

'It looks like you've just shot yourself in the foot, yet again'
_ It looks like you're blind in one eye and can't see out of the other
   

[Martin Weidmann]

'Great stuff... so you've got two witnesses who were not paying much attention and who say different things'
_ I don't 'got' either them. Get a grip.

'Pray tell, why would you take Earlene's word over Buell's?'
_Where did you get that little nugget?

'Or shall we call it inconclusive? Oh wait, you can't have that, can you now, because it means you have nothing to show that Oswald left the rooming house wearing a jacket'
_You just called Earlene a liar.

'It looks like you've just shot yourself in the foot, yet again'
_ It looks like you're blind in one eye and can't see out of the other
 

Am I to make sense out of these incoherent ramblings?

[Bill Brown]

No. She isn't sure and has Oswald leaving in "kind of a jacket"

Yes

So, if Oswald's gray jacket was in fact in Irving, the suspect wasn't Oswald.

All you've got to show that Oswald did in fact leave the rooming house wearing a jacket is the extremely shaky testimony of Earlene Roberts, a woman with bad eye sight who wasn't paying much attention and who focused on trying to get the TV to work. And let's not forget what her employer said about her..... known for making up stuff. And why did Earlene leave town that very day?

She isn't sure and has Oswald leaving in "kind of a jacket"

Earlene Roberts has Oswald zipping up a jacket as he went out the door.  Nothing about "kind of" zipping up a jacket.

All you've got to show that Oswald did in fact leave the rooming house wearing a jacket is the extremely shaky testimony of Earlene Roberts...

Which is far more than you have when arguing that Oswald was not wearing a jacket as he went out the door.

[Bill Brown]

In the meantime, Wesley Buell Frazier's testimony has Oswald wearing a grey jacket to Irving on the evening of 11/21/63, and his only other jacket, blue-grey in color, was later found in the Domino room of the TSBD.

It doesn't take a genius which jacket Oswald was wearing to Irving, as he only had two jackets.

The problem for you is that your entire premise relies on Frazier being absolutely correct, regarding the color of the jacket Oswald was wearing Thursday evening.  If Frazier is off, then your point is invalid.  And we already know just how unreliable Frazier has been and still is.

[John Iacoletti]

The problem for you is that your entire premise relies on Frazier being absolutely correct, regarding the color of the jacket Oswald was wearing Thursday evening.  If Frazier is off, then your point is invalid.  And we already know just how unreliable Frazier has been and still is.

Explain how “we know” this without resorting to a circular argument.

[Bill Brown]

Explain how “we know” this without resorting to a circular argument.

In your opinion, is Buell Frazier reliable?

[John Iacoletti]

In your opinion, is Buell Frazier reliable?

How is my opinion relevant to your claim about what “we know”?

My opinion is that all witness testimony is unreliable. But can you answer my question? Knowledge is different from opinion.

[Martin Weidmann]

Earlene Roberts has Oswald zipping up a jacket as he went out the door.  Nothing about "kind of" zipping up a jacket.


Which is far more than you have when arguing that Oswald was not wearing a jacket as he went out the door.

Total BS.

Roberts admitted that she wasn't paying much attention as she was concentrating on the television.
This means she had her back turned towards the living room where Oswald walked from his room to the front door.
Add to this that witness testimony is highly unreliable and that Roberts, according to Mrs Johnson, was known to make up stuff and what you are left with is nothing conclusive, whether you like it or not.

If officer Baker can mistake a shirt for a jacket than Roberts, who had poor eye sight, could just as easily have done the same.
So, no, it's not far more than arguing that Oswald was not wearing a jacket as he went out the door.