A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket

[Richard Smith]

So, what's your point?

She couldn't have made a mistake (like Baker and Whaley did) and didn't lie about the zipper on day one, but she did concoct and lie about this police car a week later?

That's some reliable witness, you've got there! 

Henry Wade must have busted for joy when Oswald was killed and saved him from having to go to trial with fruitcakes like Roberts as his best witnesses.

You are falsely equating two different situations.  Neither Baker nor Whaley suggested that they recalled Oswald as wearing a jacket because they remember him zipping it up.  They most likely made this determination because he was wearing his long shirt out and it looked somewhat like a jacket.  He might even have been wearing a jacket after the assassination.  Roberts on the other hand specifically mentioned Oswald zipping his jacket.  Something that could not have been done with his arrest shirt because it had no zipper.  And other witnesses who identified the shooter as LHO placed him in a jacket.  So there are more witnesses than Roberts who put Oswald in a jacket.  But Old Ozzie is arrested a short distance away with no jacket.  He obviously was making an effort to change his appearance because he knew witnesses would describe the Tippit shooter to police as wearing a jacket.

[John Iacoletti]

"Identified the shooter as LHO".  LOL.

"obviously was making an effort to change his appearance".  LOL.

[Walt Cakebread]

Sam Guinyard puts the jacket (CE-162) on Oswald's back.

"The #2 man in the lineup I saw at the city hall is the same man I saw running with the pistol in his hand." -- Sam Guinyard (11/22/63 affidavit)

Oswald was the #2 man in the lineup.

Warren Commission testimony:
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Mr. BALL. Now, the next exhibit here is Commission Exhibit No. 162; have you ever seen this before?
Mr. GUINYARD. That's the jacket.
Mr. BALL. This is a gray jacket?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes; that's the gray jacket.
Mr. BALL. It has a zipper on it?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You say that's the jacket?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes; that he had on in Oak Cliff when he passed the lot.
Mr. BALL. That the man with the pistol had on?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir.

According to housekeeper Earlene Roberts, Oswald left the rooming house on Beckley wearing a jacket, zipping it up as he went out the door:

Warren Commission testimony:
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Mr. BALL. When he came in the door, what did he do?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He just walked in---he didn't look around at me---he didn't say nothing and went on to his room.
Mr. BALL. Did he run?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He wasn't running, but he was walking pretty fast---he was all but running.
Mr. BALL. Then, what happened after that?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He went to his room and he was in his shirt sleeves but I couldn't tell you whether it was a long-sleeved shirt or what color it was or nothing, and he got a jacket and put it on---it was kind of a zipper jacket.

By the time Oswald had reached Jefferson Blvd., he was no longer wearing a jacket:

"About 1:30 pm I saw a man standing in the lobby of the shoe store. This man was wearing a brown sport shirt. He also acted as if he was scared." -- Johnny Brewer (12/6/63 affidavit)

Warren Commission testimony:
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Mr. BREWER - And had brown hair. He had a brown sports shirt on. His shirt tail was out.
Mr. BELIN - Any jacket?
Mr. BREWER - No.

The question remains... If he did not gun down a police officer and therefore attempt to change his appearance, why did Oswald ditch the jacket that he was wearing when he left the rooming house on Beckley by the time he was spotted by Johnny Brewer at the shoe store on Jefferson?

"About 1:30 pm I saw a man standing in the lobby of the shoe store. This man was wearing a brown sport shirt. He also acted as if he was scared." -- Johnny Brewer (12/6/63 affidavit)

Has anybody seen any picture of Lee Oswald after his arrest at the theater in which he "acted as if he was scared"  In all photos Lee looks angry or defiant.... But certainly NOT scared...   So why the hell would he "ACT AS IF HE WAS SCARED before he was arrested?

It appears that Johnny Brewer had a vivid imagination.

[Richard Smith]

"About 1:30 pm I saw a man standing in the lobby of the shoe store. This man was wearing a brown sport shirt. He also acted as if he was scared." -- Johnny Brewer (12/6/63 affidavit)

Has anybody seen any picture of Lee Oswald after his arrest at the theater in which he "acted as if he was scared"  In all photos Lee looks angry or defiant.... But certainly NOT scared...   So why the hell would he "ACT AS IF HE WAS SCARED before he was arrested?

It appears that Johnny Brewer had a vivid imagination.

Let's see.  Oswald had just killed a police officer in broad daylight in front of numerous witnesses a short distance away, had no means of escape, and the police were closing in on him.  Oh yeah.  He had also just assassinated the president of the United States.  He was only moments away from arrest or death.  Other than that I guess he had no reason to be scared.  And why does it matter unless you think Brewer was part of the conspiracy.  Even if he was wrong in his characterization of Oswald's demeanor, then so what?

[Walt Cakebread]

Let's see.  Oswald had just killed a police officer in broad daylight in front of numerous witnesses a short distance away, had no means of escape, and the police were closing in on him.  Oh yeah.  He had also just assassinated the president of the United States.  He was only moments away from arrest or death.  Other than that I guess he had no reason to be scared.  And why does it matter unless you think Brewer was part of the conspiracy.  Even if he was wrong in his characterization of Oswald's demeanor, then so what?

Was the "Oswald" that you're referencing extracting the spent shells from his revolver ONE SHELL AT A TIME?   

How did the FBI firearms expert describe the removal of spent shells from a S&W revolver for the Warren Commission?   Didn't he tell them that ALL SIX CARTRIDGES are removed in a single push of the shell extractor."  The spent shells in the cylinder of a S&W are removed ALL AT ONCE .... and not  ONE SHELL AT A TIME as described by  several of the witnesses who swore that they saw the fleeing gunman doing.

Even you should be able to understand that the killer WAS NOT using a S&W revolver.....

[Rick Plant]

The problem for you is that your entire premise relies on Frazier being absolutely correct, regarding the color of the jacket Oswald was wearing Thursday evening.  If Frazier is off, then your point is invalid.  And we already know just how unreliable Frazier has been and still is.

Are you saying that Frazier is unreliable identifying the color of the jacket?

[Martin Weidmann]

Are you saying that Frazier is unreliable identifying the color of the jacket?

Of course he is. Any witness who says anything that conflicts with the official narrative gets the same treatment.

[Bill Brown]

Two weeks and a couple thousand posts later in this group by Conspiracy Advocates and still not even one logical explanation for why Oswald left the rooming house on Beckley with a jacket and then was seen in front of the shoe store on Jefferson without a jacket, other than attempting to change his appearance after murdering a cop, of course.