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Offline Paul J Cummings

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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #104 on: June 17, 2022, 05:07:11 AM »
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Did it occur to you that he was at the rooming house before 1PM? Oswald was picked up by the Nash Rambler 12:40-12:45PM. It's a short drive from TSBD to Beckley but hey it doesn't fit the narrative does it? The timeline with Oswald killing Tippit and then going to the theatre doesn't work for the WC and believe even Dulles said as much. You have more eye witnesses saying Oswald got into the Rambler than him getting in the cab.
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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
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« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2022, 06:14:20 AM »
Did it occur to you that he [Lee Oswald] was at the rooming house before 1PM?

It's very possible that Oswald did, indeed, arrive at his room prior to 1:00 PM (CST) on 11/22. But not by enough to allow him to also be at the theater at the time Burroughs said.


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Oswald was picked up by the Nash Rambler 12:40-12:45PM.

Why is it you believe the LHO "Nash Rambler" sighting but just can't begin to believe the much more believable* "bus and cab" sightings?

* They're "much more believable" because of the paper bus transfer in LHO's pocket, plus Mary Bledsoe's account (she KNEW Oswald on sight, keep in mind), plus William Whaley's positive-I.D. testimony, plus Lee Oswald's very own admission that he DID take a bus and a cab on 11/22. (And there was absolutely no reason under the sun for even the chronic liar named Oswald to lie about his Nov. 22nd bus and cab rides.)

I'm always accused of being biased and selectively choosing the evidence that favors the Lone Assassin scenario, but there can be no doubt that CTers do the same thing all day long (as Paul Cummings just demonstrated above).


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It's a short drive from TSBD to Beckley but hey it doesn't fit the narrative does it?

Since we all know (based on the sum total of evidence) that Oswald walked east on Elm for seven blocks before getting on Cecil McWatters' bus, of course the Rambler fantasy doesn't fit the Warren Commission's narrative (aka the proper narrative).


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The timeline with Oswald killing Tippit and then going to the theatre doesn't work for the WC...

The Warren Commission timeline works just fine. In fact, it works perfectly.

Is it a tight WC timeline? Sure it is. But, hey, given what Oswald did and when he did it on November 22, it definitely should be an extremely tight timeline. Why wouldn't it be tight?

But to think, as many CTers do, that such a timeline can be fine-tuned right down to the exact minute is just not a reasonable thing to believe, IMO. All timelines associated with Lee Harvey Oswald's 11/22 movements are "approximate" times, just as the Warren Commission said in CE1119-A.




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You have more eye witnesses saying Oswald got into the Rambler than him getting in the cab.

Well, that's not too surprising. Would you have expected Whaley's taxicab stand at the Greyhound bus station to be packed with onlookers on any given day?

Bonus "Timeline" Link....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-1.html
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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #106 on: June 17, 2022, 07:15:34 AM »
The best possible combination of evidence that could possibly exist (lacking a confession from the killer) does, indeed, exist in the Tippit murder case

You might be impressed by sham lineups and a gun with no provenance, but that doesn’t justify certainty in any objective sense.

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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #107 on: June 17, 2022, 07:23:58 AM »
Why would you disregard all of the best evidence (positive witness I.D.s + ballistics proof) in favor of the much-less-reliable "timeline" type of evidence?

What “ballistics proof”? Fabricate much?

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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #108 on: June 17, 2022, 07:31:53 AM »
It's not JUST Markham. Several other witnesses IDed LHO in the area with a gun. But you'll just ignore them, right?

Sorry, I thought we were talking about evidence of murder, not evidence of carrying a gun down the street.

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So you think Oswald was in the theater at about 1:00 PM, right? Which, if true, means he would have then left the theater about 35 minutes later in order to be seen standing in front of Johnny Brewer's shoe store at about 1:35 PM. And then Oswald re-enters the theater after seemingly trying to avoid the police cars screaming past the Hardy's Shoe Store on Jefferson Boulevard (per Brewer's testimony).

So Burroughs and Jack Davis can be wrong but Brewer can’t? How do those cherries taste?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #109 on: June 17, 2022, 07:36:08 AM »
Even Oswald HIMSELF admitted to going to his roominghouse and retrieving his pistol on 11/22.

You don’t know what Oswald HIMSELF admitted.

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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #110 on: June 17, 2022, 07:41:29 AM »
Oswald was picked up by the Nash Rambler 12:40-12:45PM.

Hi Paul, on a regular work day Oswald was due back at work at 12:45 and up until 12:30 on the 22nd it was just another work day and if a murder didn't happen directly outside their workplace, the staff would have gone back to work at 12:45.
So when do you feel that this pickup/getaway car which had to negotiate road closures and crawling traffic, was organised?

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« Reply #111 on: June 17, 2022, 07:46:12 AM »
* They're "much more believable" because of the paper bus transfer in LHO's pocket,

You mean the transfer they didn’t “find” until hours after he was arrested and searched?

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plus Mary Bledsoe's account (she KNEW Oswald on sight, keep in mind),

You mean the Mary Bledsoe whose evidence that she rented a room to Oswald was a calendar page that her son sold? The Mary Bledsoe who somehow saw a photo of Rachel before she was born?

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plus William Whaley's positive-I.D. testimony

You mean the William Whaley who picked his passenger up at 12:30 and described him as wearing a blue khaki workman uniform and two jackets?

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« Reply #111 on: June 17, 2022, 07:46:12 AM »