The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)

[David Von Pein]

For many years now, a claim made by JFK assassination conspiracy theorists has been that the initials of FBI agent Elmer Lee Todd were not present on Warren Commission Exhibit 399.

Conspiracists such as James DiEugenio (among others) have made this claim even though the FBI agent in question (Elmer Todd) wrote up a report on 11/22/63 specifically saying that he had, indeed, etched his initials into the nose of the bullet.

Here's a conversation I had with DiEugenio in 2010 concerning the topic of CE399 and Todd's initials:

JAMES DiEUGENIO -- "[John] Hunt then brought magnifying glasses and a computer scanner to visually inspect the documents, the bullet, and the photos at very close range and under magnification. Does anyone truly believe that he could not locate Todd's initials under those circumstances?"

DAVID VON PEIN -- "Yes, I do. ALL of the markings that John Hunt found on Bullet CE399 from the NARA photos are very faint and quite difficult to see and discern. I can easily envision Todd's faint mark on that bullet being overlooked."

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Well, as it turns out, I was correct when I said to DiEugenio that Elmer Todd's initials are on Bullet CE399. And this fact was proven beyond any doubt whatsoever in 2022 by JFK assassination researcher Steve Roe, whose article concerning this matter, entitled "The Unfounded Attack on CE 399’s Chain of Custody", was published online at the Washington Decoded website on June 11, 2022. The article can be found HERE.

That article by Steve Roe contains new high-definition photographs of CE399, including the picture below, which clearly shows that the initials "ET" (Elmer Todd) have been scratched into the surface of the bullet near the nose, which is precisely where Elmer Todd himself said in Commission Document No. 7 he had etched his initials:



So, with Mr. Roe's definitive discovery of Elmer Lee Todd's initials on that crucial and long-maligned piece of assassination-related evidence known as Commission Exhibit 399, it should forever put to rest yet another long-standing (and inaccurate) argument that has been made by conspiracy theorists—the argument that Todd's initials are nowhere to be found on CE399.

Because as everyone can easily see via the above high-quality photograph, Mr. Todd's markings are most certainly present and accounted for on that bullet.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-initials-of-elmer-todd-are-on-ce399.html

[Gerry Down]

CTers caught lying again.

[Martin Weidmann]

For many years now, a claim made by JFK assassination conspiracy theorists has been that the initials of FBI agent Elmer Lee Todd were not present on Warren Commission Exhibit 399.

Conspiracists such as James DiEugenio (among others) have made this claim even though the FBI agent in question (Elmer Todd) wrote up a report on 11/22/63 specifically saying that he had, indeed, etched his initials into the nose of the bullet.

Here's a conversation I had with DiEugenio in 2010 concerning the topic of CE399 and Todd's initials:

JAMES DiEUGENIO -- "[John] Hunt then brought magnifying glasses and a computer scanner to visually inspect the documents, the bullet, and the photos at very close range and under magnification. Does anyone truly believe that he could not locate Todd's initials under those circumstances?"

DAVID VON PEIN -- "Yes, I do. ALL of the markings that John Hunt found on Bullet CE399 from the NARA photos are very faint and quite difficult to see and discern. I can easily envision Todd's faint mark on that bullet being overlooked."

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Well, as it turns out, I was correct when I said to DiEugenio that Elmer Todd's initials are on Bullet CE399. And this fact was proven beyond any doubt whatsoever in 2022 by JFK assassination researcher Steve Roe, whose article concerning this matter, entitled "The Unfounded Attack on CE 399’s Chain of Custody", was published online at the Washington Decoded website on June 11, 2022. The article can be found HERE.

That article by Steve Roe contains new high-definition photographs of CE399, including the picture below, which clearly shows that the initials "ET" (Elmer Todd) have been scratched into the surface of the bullet near the nose, which is precisely where Elmer Todd himself said in Commission Document No. 7 he had etched his initials:



So, with Mr. Roe's definitive discovery of Elmer Lee Todd's initials on that crucial and long-maligned piece of assassination-related evidence known as Commission Exhibit 399, it should forever put to rest yet another long-standing (and inaccurate) argument that has been made by conspiracy theorists—the argument that Todd's initials are nowhere to be found on CE399.

Because as everyone can easily see via the above high-quality photograph, Mr. Todd's markings are most certainly present and accounted for on that bullet.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-initials-of-elmer-todd-are-on-ce399.html

Todd's initials being on CE399 doesn't make a damned bit of difference for the lack of a solid chain of custody. You can not find a bullet in Dallas and have the chain of custody start several hours later in Washington. There is enough reasonable doubt about the authenticity of the bullet now in evidence as CE399. Todd's initials on CE399 does not engate that.

[Gerry Down]

This completely discredits "jfk revisited" as a documentary.

[W. Tracy Parnell]

 

[Michael Walton]

For many years now, a claim made by JFK assassination conspiracy theorists has been that the initials of FBI agent Elmer Lee Todd were not present on Warren Commission Exhibit 399.

Conspiracists such as James DiEugenio (among others) have made this claim even though the FBI agent in question (Elmer Todd) wrote up a report on 11/22/63 specifically saying that he had, indeed, etched his initials into the nose of the bullet.

Here's a conversation I had with DiEugenio in 2010 concerning the topic of CE399 and Todd's initials:

JAMES DiEUGENIO -- "[John] Hunt then brought magnifying glasses and a computer scanner to visually inspect the documents, the bullet, and the photos at very close range and under magnification. Does anyone truly believe that he could not locate Todd's initials under those circumstances?"

DAVID VON PEIN -- "Yes, I do. ALL of the markings that John Hunt found on Bullet CE399 from the NARA photos are very faint and quite difficult to see and discern. I can easily envision Todd's faint mark on that bullet being overlooked."

--------------------

Well, as it turns out, I was correct when I said to DiEugenio that Elmer Todd's initials are on Bullet CE399. And this fact was proven beyond any doubt whatsoever in 2022 by JFK assassination researcher Steve Roe, whose article concerning this matter, entitled "The Unfounded Attack on CE 399’s Chain of Custody", was published online at the Washington Decoded website on June 11, 2022. The article can be found HERE.

That article by Steve Roe contains new high-definition photographs of CE399, including the picture below, which clearly shows that the initials "ET" (Elmer Todd) have been scratched into the surface of the bullet near the nose, which is precisely where Elmer Todd himself said in Commission Document No. 7 he had etched his initials:



So, with Mr. Roe's definitive discovery of Elmer Lee Todd's initials on that crucial and long-maligned piece of assassination-related evidence known as Commission Exhibit 399, it should forever put to rest yet another long-standing (and inaccurate) argument that has been made by conspiracy theorists—the argument that Todd's initials are nowhere to be found on CE399.

Because as everyone can easily see via the above high-quality photograph, Mr. Todd's markings are most certainly present and accounted for on that bullet.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-initials-of-elmer-todd-are-on-ce399.html

So what, Dave? There are plenty of bullet fragments in this case when they hit the skull, shattering throughout the car. Yet, this alleged bullet is supposed to have gone through Kennedy and into Connally, hitting one of the hardest bones in the body, yet comes out remarkably in good shape.

A cop's initials mean absolutely nothing. Put another way, anyone could have said, "Here's a bullet that was found on a stretcher..." handed it to the cop, who put his marks on it. It does NOT mean it was part of the JFK murder.

What's amazing is people like you and others have absolutely no ability to apply even a little bit of critical thinking when it comes to stuff like this in this case. Do you not find it the least bit interesting - to say the least - that a bullet hit the radius bones and looks like it does when they did plenty of testing with cadavers and it shows far worst damage?

[David Von Pein]

So what, Dave? .... A cop's initials mean absolutely nothing.

And let the CTer Denials begin!

Do you not find it the least bit interesting - to say the least - that a bullet hit the radius bones and looks like it does when they did plenty of testing with cadavers and it shows far worst damage?

And in those cadaver tests, did the test bullet(s) mimic the SBT by going through a simulated JFK back/neck first?

Answer: No.

Which is something Dr. Cyril Wecht has apparently never learned in all these years either, otherwise he would finally stop propping up this bullet chart (esp. CE856, which OF COURSE ended up way more damaged than CE399 because it hit a wrist bone at FULL MUZZLE VELOCITY and didn't first go through a JFK mock-up OR a Connally torso mock-up):



http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1035.html

[Martin Weidmann]

So what, Dave? There are plenty of bullet fragments in this case when they hit the skull, shattering throughout the car. Yet, this alleged bullet is supposed to have gone through Kennedy and into Connally, hitting one of the hardest bones in the body, yet comes out remarkably in good shape.

A cop's initials mean absolutely nothing. Put another way, anyone could have said, "Here's a bullet that was found on a stretcher..." handed it to the cop, who put his marks on it. It does NOT mean it was part of the JFK murder.

What's amazing is people like you and others have absolutely no ability to apply even a little bit of critical thinking when it comes to stuff like this in this case. Do you not find it the least bit interesting - to say the least - that a bullet hit the radius bones and looks like it does when they did plenty of testing with cadavers and it shows far worst damage?

Put another way, anyone could have said, "Here's a bullet that was found on a stretcher..." handed it to the cop, who put his marks on it. It does NOT mean it was part of the JFK murder.

That's exactly what happened! And it wasn't only with CE399.

Frazier was given bullet fragments and told they were found in the limo.
DPD officer Hill had several officers initial a revolver he said he was told came from Oswald
Several DPD officers initialed the gray jacket that they were told had been found under a parked car. None of the officers actually handled or saw the jacket in situ.