The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)

[Martin Weidmann]

But it's very possible that Markham was just approximating (i.e., rounding off) the time when she said "1:15". A lot of people do such "rounding off". Don't you?

When people are asked "What time is it?" and it's 1:12, a common response would be, "It's just about a quarter after."

Desperation of full display!

Let's complicate matters a bit further for you. Markham and Bowley are inseparably linked together by the times they arrived at the scene. Markham arrived about 1 minute before the shooting and saw a man crossing Patton walking east being followed by a patrol car. Bowley arrived no more than about 1 minute after the shooting. We know this because Callaway was on the scene within less than 3 minutes after the shots and by then Bowley had already made his 48 seconds long radio call.

Markham and Bowley's actions can be traced and timed. Markham left her home at 1:06 or 1:07 and only needed to walk one block of 400 feet to get to 10th and Patton, which would have taken her 3 minutes. Bowley picked up his daughter from school at 12:55 and only needed to drive 6.3 miles or about 13 to 15 minutes to arrive at 10th and Patton. 

If you push Markham's timing further back, as you've tried to do, by nearly 5 minutes, you need to do the same for Bowley and the other way around. The only time that really makes sense for Markham and Bowley to both be at the scene is if Tippit was killed between 1:09 and 1:11 at the latest. But maybe that's just to much rationality for you.

[Martin Weidmann]

The first "1:19" timestamp doesn't begin immediately after the end of Bowley's transmission. It occurs about 35 seconds after Bowley signs off with "thank you." So, from your 1:16 timestamp, it's 1:47 to the beginning of Bowley's call, 48 seconds where Bowley gets to be a radio star, and another 35 seconds until 1:19 appears. Once that mistake is corrected, your 1:18:35, becomes 1:19:10.

There is no point in discussing this when you ignore what happened before the 1:16 time stamp.

[David Von Pein]

The point which you are so desperate to confuse is that in Markham's mind she had to be at that bus stop on Jefferson by 1:15...

Why? Do you think she was totally unaware of the fact that a bus would pass that bus stop every 10 minutes?

She was very likely quite aware that she could catch the 1:22 if she missed the 1:12. It's just too bad the WC didn't ask her about that very thing.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=73

[David Von Pein]

Markham left her home at 1:06 or 1:07....

You know that for an absolute fact, do you? Remarkable.

Was there an atomic clock flashing the Naval Observatory time above Markham's head as she left the washateria?

[Martin Weidmann]

Why? Do you think she was totally unaware of the fact that a bus would pass that bus stop every 10 minutes? She was very likely quite aware that she could catch the 1:22 if she missed the 1:12. It's just too bad the WC didn't ask her about that very thing.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=73

I think Markham was very well aware of the fact that a bus would come every 10 minutes and she probably did take a delayed 1:12 sometimes and a 1:22 on other occassions.
But people don't arrive at a bus stop at the exact moment a bus is due to arrive. They get there a couple of minutes earlier and the fact remains that Markham said she got on her regular bus at 1:15.

This still means that she would not have been at 10th and Patton at 1:14:30, with another three minutes to walk to her bus stop.

[Martin Weidmann]

You know that for an absolute fact, do you? Remarkable.

Was there an atomic clock flashing the Naval Observatory time above Markham's head as she left the washateria?

You know that for an absolute fact, do you? Remarkable.

No, I know for an absolute fact that this is what she said during her testimony.

Do you know for a fact that she wasn't correct?

[David Von Pein]

...the fact remains that Markham said she got on her regular bus at 1:15.

She couldn't possibly have "GOT ON" her regular bus at 1:15, because (per CD630) there was no bus at 1:15. It was 1:12.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=73

I think she normally attempted to be at her bus stop at 1:15 (to catch the 1:22 bus, because she sure as heck didn't catch the 1:12 every day, unless it was always late), but on Nov. 22 she was just a tiny bit behind schedule.

This still means that she would not have been at 10th and Patton at 1:14:30, with another three minutes to walk to her bus stop.

You think it takes three full minutes to walk the one short block from 10th & Patton to Patton & Jefferson?

Maybe you can help me out on exactly WHERE on Jefferson Blvd. her bus stop was actually located. Maybe I'm not thinking of the location correctly. I'm envisioning her bus stop being right at (or near) the corner of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Boulevard. Is that correct or incorrect?

EDIT -- I see now that the CD630 page I linked above does say where the bus stop was --- it was "at the corner of Patton and Jefferson" (per CD630). And there's no way it takes 3 minutes to walk that distance.


http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/photos-of-tippit-murder-scene.html

[John Iacoletti]

Why? Do you think she was totally unaware of the fact that a bus would pass that bus stop every 10 minutes?

She was very likely quite aware that she could catch the 1:22 if she missed the 1:12. It's just too bad the WC didn't ask her about that very thing.

Is there any evidence whatsoever that makes this wild guess “very likely”?