The Position of the Bolt on the MC

[Walt Cakebread]

But, when taken at face value, the evidence regarding who was on the 6th floor just before, during and after the shooting excludes Oswald as the shooter.
So Oswald didn't dash across the 6th floor.
He did not stash the MC away
He did not dash downstairs to his rendezvous with Baker and Truly
In this scenario, the MC is no longer required as the murder weapon, it is nothing more than a prop to frame Oswald.
Who was probably in the Domino Room while all this was going down.

So Oswald didn't dash across the 6th floor.
He did not stash the MC away
He did not dash downstairs to his rendezvous with Baker and Truly
In this scenario, the MC is no longer required as the murder weapon, it is nothing more than a prop to frame Oswald.
Who was probably in the Domino Room while all this was going down.

Yes, You've got it right.... However I don't agree with #2.....He did not stash the MC away

I believe that it's possible that Lee DID hide that carcano BEFORE the shooting.   I believe that Lee thought that he was playing the same role that he had played at Walker's in April.    At Walker's he fired a bullet through the window and then left the rifle beneath a pile of brush where he hoped it would be found  and traced to him, but by the time they had traced the rifle he would have been on his way to Cuba where he would try to learn if all of the nuclear missiles had been removed from the island.  He had calculated that the Dallas papers would print stories about how the Marine turncoat and Commie had attempted to kill General Walker who was very popular in Dallas.

That's basically the same role he was playing on 11/22/63 .....  There would be a couple of spent shells left beneath the window ( mute proof that shots had been fired from that site.) and the carcano would be found hidden along the logical escape route. But by the time they traced the rifle to him he would be out of the country and on his way to Cuba.

The hitch in the plot to use the sucker Oswald was created because officer Marrion Baker  responded to the sound of "gunshots" and encountered Lee In the 2nd floor lunchroom less than two minutes after the FIRST shot was fired.   When the investigators ( and framers ) started trying to reconstruct the imaginary movements of Lee Oswald they discovered that he couldn't possibly have hid that rifle as it was found AFTER the shooting. ( it was too far away from the imaginary flight path and the hiding place was  too well constructed)   Thus  they were compelled to create an in situ site for the rifle that made it possible ( if it wasn't scrutinized too closely) for Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssswald ( BOOOO, HISSSSS) to have dashed by that site and and hastily dumped the rifle before he scrambled down the stairs to the 2nd floor lunchroom.     

[Walt Cakebread]

Boone confirms the exact location of the rifle when he found it:

Mr. Ball: Now, 515 contains the arrow which shows the space between boxes where you found the rifle, is that right?
Mr. Boone: Yes.



The arrow points to the location the rifle was filmed by Alyea and photographed by the DPD.
How much more evidence do you need?

CE 515 Has an arrow drawn on it to depict the location of the rifle...Notice how close the rifle would have been to that ceiling support pillar....    Mr Collins  has posted Studebaker's map of the sixth floor and that map depicts the rifle muzzle as being about SEVEN FEET  from that Pillar



Notice that Studebaker's map shows the rifle about FIVE FEET from the aisle at the top of the stairs.....Only Plastic Man could have stretched out far enough to place that rifle in the position depicted on Studebaker's map.

[Zeon Mason]

That photo shows the pallet DOES have 1x4 cross member planks on the underside. which raise the 2x4 east-west running members off the floor by 1/4 “.

However the only way there’s any chance at all for Weitzman to have LOS thru the 1/4”  gap would be to have his cheek literally touching the ground so his eye could be 1/8th” off the ground AND he would have to be located at the SW corner of the pallet looking directly North AND there would have to be some vertical gap between the row of boxes on the North side of the pallet  from which one box was removed to allow the photo of a portion of the rifle.

I’m going to have to take Walt’s word for it that you can’t get your eye close enough to the floor to have a parallel LOS across 4ft of floor under a pallet that’s only 1/4” off the ground.

[Walt Cakebread]

That photo shows the pallet DOES have 1x4 cross member planks on the underside. which raise the 2x4 east-west running members off the floor by 1/4 “.

However the only way there’s any chance at all for Weitzman to have LOS thru the 1/4”  gap would be to have his cheek literally touching the ground so his eye could be 1/8th” off the ground AND he would have to be located at the SW corner of the pallet looking directly North AND there would have to be some vertical gap between the row of boxes on the North side of the pallet  from which one box was removed to allow the photo of a portion of the rifle.

I’m going to have to take Walt’s word for it that you can’t get your eye close enough to the floor to have a parallel LOS across 4ft of floor under a pallet that’s only 1/4” off the ground.

Weitzman sad that he had his face down on the flor and shoned his flashlight beneath the pallet and then he saw the rifle lying on the floor.   

Studebaker's map shows that the rifle was 5 feet west, and 2 feet 4 inches south of the ceiling support pillar ( about seven feet from the pillar to the rifle) and the official DPD in situ photo shows the muzzle of the rifle about 18 inches from the pillar.....

[Walt Cakebread]

CE 515 Has an arrow drawn on it to depict the location of the rifle...Notice how close the rifle would have been to that ceiling support pillar....    Mr Collins  has posted Studebaker's map of the sixth floor and that map depicts the rifle muzzle as being about SEVEN FEET  from that Pillar



Notice that Studebaker's map shows the rifle about FIVE FEET from the aisle at the top of the stairs.....Only Plastic Man could have stretched out far enough to place that rifle in the position depicted on Studebaker's map.

For Dan Omeara....

Dan, notice where Studebaker placed the rifle on his precision plat of the sixth floor?   The rifle was NOT about 18 inches from the ceiling support pillar as it is shown in the in situ photo ......It actually was about seven feet from the pillar. 

[Dan O'meara]

For Dan Omeara....

Dan, notice where Studebaker placed the rifle on his precision plat of the sixth floor?   The rifle was NOT about 18 inches from the ceiling support pillar as it is shown in the in situ photo ......It actually was about seven feet from the pillar.

Hey Walt,
not sure I can see the support pillar in the in situ photo:

[Walt Cakebread]

Hey Walt,
not sure I can see the support pillar in the in situ photo:

Yes, that's right but other photos show the pillar about 18 inches N/E of the muzzle. 

[Walt Cakebread]

Hey Walt,
not sure I can see the support pillar in the in situ photo:

You can't see the pillar but if you look at Tom Alyeas photo of Day picking up the rifle you can see the pillar BEHIND Captain Fritz...   That should give a good indication where the rifle was located.  I'll see if I can find a photo that shows the pillar close to the muzzle