The Position of the Bolt on the MC

[John Iacoletti]

A certain cop does

What cop would that be, clown-boy?

Oh, wait.. everybody's lying

Everybody?  So do you think Bookhout was lying when he said "Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room at the Texas School Book Depository, alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period"?  Or are you just cherry-picking something you heard somewhere and stating it as a fact, as usual?

[Walt Cakebread]

People walking around to & fro, eating their lunch on the fly
Jarman, Arce and BOOMCLICKCLICK guy outside then getting back upstairs by going around the side/back/ and where is that Oswald/Jarman/Lunchroom again?

Oswald said he ate lunch with 'Junior' and Jarman denied it
Now there's an eyebrow-raiser

Oswald said he ate lunch with 'Junior' and Jarman denied it

Where do you get this BS?.....   Neither Hosty nor Fritz jotted down such an important piece of information.

If Lee had told them that he had ate lunch with Junior Jarmam both Fritz and Hosty would have noted that critical piece of information and then checked with Jarman to verify or refute Lee's statement.

Lee DID tell Fritz and Hosty that he had seen Junior and "a short statured" colored walk by the 1st floor lunchroom as he was eating his lunch.  ......And they verified that they had in fact walked by the lunchroom at about 12:27.

[Jerry Freeman]

Here's the deal.... The rifle found in the Texas School Book Depository Building was 40.2″ long and was the Carcano Fucile Modello 91/38.
This rifle weighs 7.44 lb.
No one has ever replicated the act of carrying ...unnoticed by any others... this amount of hardware in a flimsy paper sack [as described by Mr Frazier] ... the only person that the Warren gang managed to bully into half-halfheartedly fingering Lee.

[Walt Cakebread]

Here's the deal.... The rifle found in the Texas School Book Depository Building was 40.2″ long and was the Carcano Fucile Modello 91/38.
This rifle weighs 7.44 lb.
No one has ever replicated the act of carrying ...unnoticed by any others... this amount of hardware in a flimsy paper sack [as described by Mr Frazier] ... the only person that the Warren gang managed to bully into half-halfheartedly fingering Lee.

The weight you've posted is for a Carcano without a scope....  I believe that CE 139 weighed nearly 9 pounds.

The reason that the weight is important is because the official tale would have us believe that skinny Lee Oswald had a grip like bench vise.    He was able to hold that 9 pound rifle by the butt, with his right hand, while he inserted it between the boxes of books (As seen in the official DPD in situ photo)    He would have had to use his left hand to balance himself as he leaned across the row of boxes.

Try this:.... Try to hold 40 inch long piece of 2X4 lumber  ( approx 2 lbs) , by the end, with one hand and place it beneath a coffee table....       This simple experiment should provide you with verification for my claim that Lee Oswald DID NOT place that 9 pond rifle into the crevice between the boxes of books as it is seen in the official DPD police photo. 

[John Iacoletti]

Both Jarman and Norman kept their lunches on a shelf inside one of the windows in the Domino Room ("I put it in the window" and "I left it in the window of the domino room"). Oswald is clearly telling Bookhout about the "lunch room" and that he saw Jarman and Norman "walking through the room" to where they routinely stored their sandwiches.

There’s nothing “clear” about that. You’re just applying your own spin.

That would be exceedingly stupid given Norman and Jarman got their lunch sacks at noon or before.

Oswald thought he was smarter than the authorities he hated. I think it was only when he was in custody--having not been killed by police--that he gave any thought to an "alibi".  Oswald, on the sixth floor, heard Jarman and Norman arrive below the open window of the Sniper's Nest and figured they must have come from the Domino Room. Lil'Lee imagined they had just finished eating, and he thought his "alibi" would be helped by claiming he saw them walk through to get their lunches (as he knew they did so routinely). Maybe Oswald figured a white man's word in a Texas court would hold up against that of two black men.

Another cool, fanciful story, bro.

[Walt Cakebread]

There’s nothing “clear” about that. You’re just applying your own spin.

That would be exceedingly stupid given Norman and Jarman got their lunch sacks at noon or before.

Another cool, fanciful story, bro.

Another cool, fanciful story, bro.

A cool story but devoid of the facts....

[Walt Cakebread]

Looks like after the rifle was placed on the floor, the box(es) covering the gap slid over it when Oswald either intentionally slid it or inadvertently pushed it when he was straightening up.

You really think folks are so dumb they would believe the gap in the Crime Lab in-situ photos couldn't have been more open when the rifle was placed there?

You really think folks are so dumb they would believe the gap in the Crime Lab in-situ photos couldn't have been more open when the rifle was placed there?

Do you really believe that Lee Oswald had the ability to grip that 9 pound rifle by the butt in a vice like grip, and place it where the DPD in situ photo shows it?    It doesn't make any difference if the boxes were pushed over the rifle after it was placed on the floor or those boxes were there when the rifle was inserted into the opening.....It would still have had to have been held by the butt with the right hand .... Which is impossible, because there isn't a man alive who could grip that smooth surface and hold the rifle in the horizontal position.

P.S. Is the corner of the box that is above the stock of the rifle, sitting on top of the box that is to the right of the rifle? 

[Charles Collins]

The weight you've posted is for a Carcano without a scope....  I believe that CE 139 weighed nearly 9 pounds.

The reason that the weight is important is because the official tale would have us believe that skinny Lee Oswald had a grip like bench vise.    He was able to hold that 9 pound rifle by the butt, with his right hand, while he inserted it between the boxes of books (As seen in the official DPD in situ photo)    He would have had to use his left hand to balance himself as he leaned across the row of boxes.

Try this:.... Try to hold 40 inch long piece of 2X4 lumber  ( approx 2 lbs) , by the end, with one hand and place it beneath a coffee table....       This simple experiment should provide you with verification for my claim that Lee Oswald DID NOT place that 9 pond rifle into the crevice between the boxes of books as it is seen in the official DPD police photo.

According to Robert Frazier’s testimony, the rifle with the scope (and, I believe, strap) weighs 8- pounds. Watch the secret service reenactment and see how the agent casually walked across the sixth floor and sets the wooden rifle prop into the space between the boxes. The only thing that he doesn’t do is push the two boxes over the opening. That could be very quickly done. No problem…