Umbrella Man: Suspicious

[Sean Kneringer]

If Witt was part of a conspiracy, why would he voluntarily come forward and subject himself to a barrage of questions that could expose him?

[Jerry Freeman]

A guy waving an umbrella.. it's a signal.

Would someone want to bet that it has never happened before?

The Presidential flag seems to be being whipped strongly by the wind.

Naturally...the car is moving. The ladies loose skirts and dresses are not moving even slightly. Argue that [most likely will]

If Witt was part of a conspiracy, why would he voluntarily come forward and subject himself to a barrage of questions that could expose him?

  No one here has claimed that Witt was a conspirator in the assassination.
 

[Jerry Organ]

Would someone want to bet that it has never happened before?  Naturally...the car is moving. The ladies loose skirts and dresses are not moving even slightly. Argue that [most likely will]  No one here has claimed that Witt was a conspirator in the assassination.
 

Skeptic-Tank's claim that only the line-of-travel moved the flag (if so, why only one flag?). Seems more like a cross-wind going on with the Presidential flag bowing off to the side at times.


Wind blowing open Hill's and Moorman's heavy fall coats.

[Jerry Freeman]

Wind blowing open Hill's and Moorman's heavy fall coats.

Now you weighed their coats? 
You are out on strikes [I gave you 4] with the wind buffeting the umbrella.
 There is still not enough to demonstrate it taking off like a kite...sorry.
The film shows it rising perfectly upward as a wounded [not yet destroyed] JFK goes by.
Your TUM remains suspiciously suspicious.

[Richard Smith]

There is no evidence - for me - that a team of snipers shot JFK using coordinated triangulated fire. None. The evidence for me is that JFK was shot by one person firing in a location behind him. No multiple sniper teams, no coordinated fire.

So who was Witt or "umbrella man" coordinating? Where did this supposed triangulated fire come from? Where did Witt/UM get his orders? Where is the evidence he was a "cog" in this conspiracy machine? Because he flapped an umbrella? And because his account of what he did and saw - as with many witnesses in Dealey Plaza - is not corroborated by films and photos? Many witnesses gave accounts of what they remembered seeing or doing that are wrong. Our memories are not little cameras that accurately record everything.

This is typical conspiracy thinking. Conspiracy first and then search for evidence, real or imagined, of the conspiracy. A guy waving an umbrella is not some guy doing goofy things; no it's a signal.

There is also no apparent purpose or need for any such person even in a scenario where there were multiple shooters.  The motorcade was clearly visible to any sniper in Dealey Plaza.  They wouldn't need someone to wave around an umbrella (drawing such attention that we are still discussing it six decades later) at the last moment.  That is completely absurd.  Anyone who believes this action was somehow related to a conspiracy is beyond reason.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

There is also no apparent purpose or need for any such person even in a scenario where there were multiple shooters.  The motorcade was clearly visible to any sniper in Dealey Plaza.  They wouldn't need someone to wave around an umbrella (drawing such attention that we are still discussing it six decades later) at the last moment.  That is completely absurd.  Anyone who believes this action was somehow related to a conspiracy is beyond reason.

What's the evidence again for these multiple sniper teams?

So the idea - again - is that these powerful groups secretly (somehow; nobody said no?) conspired to shoot JFK in broad daylight in the middle of a crowded street/location with many people carrying cameras and recording the event. And the followup cars in the motorcade had numerous reporters - several with cameras also recording the conspiracy. These reporters and spectators were all over the scene of the crime. Filming things, watching things. Things such as multiple sniper teams roaming about the Plaza (?).

Is this how you pull off the crime of the American century? Really? Like this? Do you want to get caught? Make it as complex as possible?

Vincent Salandria and Jim Garrison argued that this overt plan was done on purpose: it was sending a message to the public that "we" are in charge here and we'll do what we damned want to do. So the absurdity of killing JFK this way - and risking exposure - is really evidence not that it wasn't done but evidence that it was done.

Nuts, just nuts.

[Richard Smith]

What's the evidence again for these multiple sniper teams?

So the idea - again - is that these powerful groups secretly (somehow; nobody said no?) conspired to shoot JFK in broad daylight in the middle of a crowded street/location with many people carrying cameras and recording the event. And the followup cars in the motorcade had numerous reporters - several with cameras also recording the conspiracy. These reporters and spectators were all over the scene of the crime. Filming things, watching things. Things such as multiple sniper teams roaming about the Plaza (?).

Is this how you pull off the crime of the American century? Really? Like this? Do you want to get caught? Make it as complex as possible?

Vincent Salandria and Jim Garrison argued that this overt plan was done on purpose: it was sending a message to the public that "we" are in charge here and we'll do what we damned want to do. So the absurdity of killing JFK this way - and risking exposure - is really evidence not that it wasn't done but evidence that it was done.

Nuts, just nuts.

There is el zippo evidence of multiple shooters or any shooter other than Oswald.  But even if there was a Wild West shootout going on in Dealey Plaza, there was no need for some guy to wave an umbrella around.  It is just an oddity of life that at the particular historic moment one guy happened to be there with his umbrella to protest.  It does not have greater significance for that reason alone as CTers suggest.  If JFK wasn't assassinated at the moment, no one would have ever known about it.   Random events happen all the time in life, and no one takes much notice.  If someone examined every single detail that occurs on any given day with pedantic enthusiasm, you would find many unlikely things occur in the ordinary course of events.  That doesn't mean there is some guiding hand behind it.  Just the opposite.

[Paul J Cummings]

There is el zippo evidence of multiple shooters or any shooter other than Oswald.  But even if there was a Wild West shootout going on in Dealey Plaza, there was no need for some guy to wave an umbrella around.  It is just an oddity of life that at the particular historic moment one guy happened to be there with his umbrella to protest.  It does not have greater significance for that reason alone as CTers suggest.  If JFK wasn't assassinated at the moment, no one would have ever known about it.   Random events happen all the time in life, and no one takes much notice.  If someone examined every single detail that occurs on any given day with pedantic enthusiasm, you would find many unlikely things occur in the ordinary course of events.  That doesn't mean there is some guiding hand behind it.  Just the opposite.

Yeah all those people running to or heading for the grassy knoll were just in big rush to get out of the parking lot and beat the traffic.