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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #152 on: August 12, 2022, 09:29:04 PM »
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Like clown-boy knows what soft drink was “Oswald’s choice”.

Where did you come up with RC Cola
I saw no references to that re Oswald.
But plenty to Oswald and Dr P.
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Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #153 on: August 12, 2022, 09:53:49 PM »
With some police shootings of minorities, it's the opposite. An invisible "gun" is "seen" in the hand of the compliant "suspect" by a racist officer, then after "appropriate measures" (learned in so-called "training"), the now-dead suspect's "gun" is no longer seen.

I'm not seeing the relevance to the Tippit situation.  Oswald was white.  The only policeman at the scene was killed by him.  The shooter obviously had a gun.  In the course of human history, there have been such situations as you describe, but so what in this context?  Point being that if a witness hears a gunshot and immediately looks in the direction of the shooting to see one man with a gun next to the victim it's accurate to say that they witnessed the shooting.  There was no one else at the Tippit shooting with a gun.  No one other than the person with the gun could have committed the act.  Multiple witnesses identified Oswald as the "shooter" via his possession of the gun at the scene of the shooting.   Marham saw him commit the act.  Only a pedantic CT contrarian would split hairs about characterizing these witnesses as seeing Oswald literally pull the trigger.    No one saw John Wilkes Booth pull the trigger to kill Lincoln.  They heard the gun shot, looked in that direction, and saw Booth with the gun.  No one in their right mind would ever suggest there is doubt that these witnesses had seen the shooter.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Umbrella Man: Suspicious
« Reply #154 on: August 12, 2022, 11:58:43 PM »
Where did you come up with RC Cola
I saw no references to that re Oswald.
But plenty to Oswald and Dr P.

The point flew way over your head. As usual.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Umbrella Man: Suspicious
« Reply #155 on: August 13, 2022, 12:05:27 AM »
So “Richard” lies about the evidence three times in a row and then declares that nobody “in their right mind” would disagree with his lies.

And that’s supposed to make them true.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Umbrella Man: Suspicious
« Reply #156 on: August 13, 2022, 12:28:57 AM »

Finally, Tippit was indeed ambushed: He moved into a position that left him with, realistically, no real cover at all. IOW he wasn't expecting an attack. Pretty sure he would be surprised at what ensued.
An ambush is where someone never even sees their attacker.
Otherwise by your definition...every shooting is an ambush.
Put that one in your bong  :-\

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #157 on: August 13, 2022, 06:32:22 AM »
The point flew way over your head. As usual.

Keep ducking, Neil

Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #158 on: August 14, 2022, 01:18:36 AM »
An ambush is where someone never even sees their attacker.
Otherwise by your definition...every shooting is an ambush.
Put that one in your bong  :-\

At the end of the day, 'ambush' equates with being caught off-guard
Tippit was caught off-guard
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Umbrella Man: Suspicious
« Reply #159 on: August 14, 2022, 03:48:25 AM »

If the truth is on your side, you don’t need to lie about the evidence.
No... but someone can just make make it up as they go along.
BTW...wasn't Oswald quoted as saying "he went upstairs to get a Coke"?

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« Reply #159 on: August 14, 2022, 03:48:25 AM »