A Rock Solid Alibi.....

[John Iacoletti]

Ouija board please tell us which station Mr. Reid was listening to on Nov. 22, 1963.  LOL.

You can't do it of course, because there is no radio station in Dallas that was live reporting the motorcade's progress.  Audio exists for all of the radio stations that had that capacity.  So, either Mrs. Reid is wrong or they weren't listening to commercial radio.  You can laugh all you like, but "Mrs. Reid said" is not reliable evidence for the claim that you made.

[John Iacoletti]

But if Adams really went down the stairs as early as she claimed, it would only mean she was ahead of Oswald.

...or that Oswald never ran down those stairs.

Same with the radio straw man claim; Oswald in the SN wouldn't need it. He could see the streets still sealed off for the motorcade, policemen at the intersections and crowds waiting.

The point is that if Oswald was planning to shoot at the motorcade, he would have needed to be in position when the motorcade was scheduled to be there.  So where was he when Rowland saw the negro (BRW?) in the SE window, and when he saw a gunman in the SW window.  And why was Oswald on the first floor instead when Carolyn Arnold saw him?  Invisible pocket radio tuned to "Richard's" fantasy radio station?

[John Iacoletti]

The Shroud letter is hearsay with no specifics. Styles said it was more like minutes than seconds when they left the window and even then they first went to the passenger elevator.

Says who?  Sean Murphy?  Talk about hearsay with no specifics...

Oswald from the SN window most certainly could have seen Norman and Jarman standing together on the sidewalk below.

Why is this "almost certain"?  Have you been in the TSBD and tried to look down at the sidewalk?  How do you even know exactly where they were standing?  The LN narrative is full of these speculative, could-have-been arguments.

He then heard the two arrive below his window some minutes before the motorcade arrived.

And that gave him the bright idea of using their names as people he saw from the lunch room?  That makes no sense whatsoever.

[Bill Chapman]

If you're going to convince anyone that a sidewalk cannot be seen, you'll have to take a video of a guy actually attempting to peer over the edge. AND NO FAIR USING A GUY WITH VERTIGO HAHA 

[Martin Weidmann]

If you're going to convince anyone that a sidewalk cannot be seen, you'll have to take a video of a guy actually attempting to peer over the edge. AND NO FAIR USING A GUY WITH VERTIGO HAHA

Let's make a deal; you provide me with evidence that Oswald or anybody else stuck his head and torso out of the 6th floor window of the TSBD, just minutes before the motorcade arrived, and I will show you a video that even then that person  still couldn't have seen the sidewalk running directly next to the building.

So, let's have that evidence.....  Oh wait... I forgot for a moment who I am talking to.

[Bill Chapman]

Let's make a deal; you provide me with evidence that Oswald or anybody else stuck his head and torso out of the 6th floor window of the TSBD, just minutes before the motorcade arrived, and I will show you a video that even then that person  still couldn't have seen the sidewalk running directly next to the building.

So, let's have that evidence.....  Oh wait... I forgot for a moment who I am talking to.

The normal procedure is to run tests first to see if is doable in he first place, such as did the subject  use a hand-mirror to stick out the window at some point, for instance. After all, lots of ladies to powder their noses and misplace their hand mirrors.

I forgot for a moment who I am talking to
_YOU don't talk TO anybody. You talk AT them

stuck his head and torso out
_No torso required. Just head and neck.
  Torso needed later for when Oswald gets what he deserved.

Meantime


The ledge barely clears the building. No peering-down issue there.


Nothing to stop a willing participant from snuggling up to the brickwork, taking a knee,
and flopping forward for an easy peer over the edge

So what's the problem?

[Martin Weidmann]

The normal procedure is to run tests first to see if is doable in he first place, such as did the subject  use a hand-mirror to stick out the window at some point, for instance. After all, lots of ladies to powder their noses and misplace their hand mirrors.

I forgot for a moment who I am talking to
_YOU don't talk TO anybody. You talk AT them

stuck his head and torso out
_No torso required. Just head and neck.
  Torso needed later for when Oswald gets what he deserved.

Meantime


The ledge barely clears the building. No peering-down issue there.


Nothing to stop a willing participant from snuggling up to the brickwork, taking a knee,
and flopping forward for an easy peer over the edge

So what's the problem?

The normal procedure is to run tests first to see if is doable in he first place, such as did the subject  use a hand-mirror to stick out the window at some point, for instance. After all, lots of ladies to powder their noses and misplace their hand mirrors.

Hilarious... so now, you've got Oswald using a hand-mirror to find out who was on the sidewalk, just minutes before the motorcade arrived? Get help, please....

stuck his head and torso out
_No torso required. Just head and neck.
  Torso needed later for when Oswald gets what he deserved.

Have it your way. Show me the evidence that Oswald or anybody else stuck his head and neck (you've clearly never been to the TSBD) out of the 6th floor window of the TSBD, just minutes before the motorcade arrived. Go on then....

Meantime


The ledge barely clears the building. No peering-down issue there.

Comedy gold and utter stupidity combined. He shows a video which proves that from the 6th floor window you can only see the sidewalk at the other side of Elm street and not the one directly in front of the TSBD. Great stuff..... 

So what's the problem?

Other than that you are a complete idiot? Nothing much... you've proven my point. You can not show that anybody on the 6th floor could have seen a person standing on the sidewalk next to the building.

I forgot for a moment who I am talking to
_YOU don't talk TO anybody. You talk AT them

Nah, I will talk to anybody who is capable of having a normal reasoned conversation. I only talk at people who are beyond help.

[Zeon Mason]

Since there was a CROWD of people below the SE window, why would Oswald just coincidentally have singled out and watched Norman and Jarman below moving around?

Why (and how?) would Oswald be watching persons directly below  the SE window when it seems to be that he kept himself hidden from view  12:25-12:29:30 given no evidence in the Bronson film (12:25) nor the Hughes film (12:29:30, (the JFK limo approaching the TSBD)of anyone visible in the SE window?

Wouldn’t Oswald be more focused on watching for when the motorcade lead car would be entering the Dealey plaza than watching anyone immediately below the SN window ( hence Oswald having to expose himself in the window to look down?)

Even if for some reason Oswald was able to see and took interest in watching 2 black guys below, is it certain he was able to see them
Go around the corner vs enter  TSBD from the front entrance?

If Oswald could possibly have seen Norman and Jarman go around the corner, how does he know they didn’t come back to the front and go into the TSBD via front entrance?

How probable to have heard the rear elevator coming up to the 5th floor if Oswald is in the 6th floor SN (barracked within a box wall no less) with all the outside ambient noise?

The only probable possibility it seems is that Oswald could have heard the voices of Jarman and Norman about 12;28 when they got to their respective 5th floor windows )

Seems a bit risky that Oswald would have ventured singling out 2 persons just upon hearing their voices when it’s doubtfully that he could know for certain if they ever passed by the Domino room at all.

In fact, Oswald offering the Domino room as the location he was at when he heard/saw ANYONE is taking a big risk that the Domino room was vacant of some other employee(s) whom would readily refute Oswald’s account.


For me this is a scenario of improbability which is compounded by the improbability of the “escape down the stairs”  past Mrs Garner unseen as well as the amount of time required just to get out the SN ( given the Bob Jackson /Malcolm Couch time of spotting the rifle and then seeing it slowly withdrawn, plus Tom Aleya’s description of the box wall barricade being totally enclosing the SN ( very narrow gao).