A Rock Solid Alibi.....

[Jerry Organ]

Levitating, is it?

It's certainly NOT lying on the floor....   And it definitely was lying on the floor when detective Day reached out and grabbed the lether sling and picked it up.

Or Day had gently slid away a box helping to keep the rifle upright while supporting the rifle to allow it to tilt onto the floor. When Day felt competent enough that the rifle could be safely lifted, he began his lift just as Alyea began his film sequence. The rifle in-situ photos are the still photos testified as true by Studebaker of the Dallas Crime Lab. Boone and Weitzman also agreed with the Studebaker photos.

Neither the Alyea film or the Crime Lab photos show the rifle hidden inside a pallet, or even leaning against a pallet.

[Walt Cakebread]

Or Day had gently slid away a box helping to keep the rifle upright while supporting the rifle to allow it to tilt onto the floor. When Day felt competent enough that the rifle could be safely lifted, he began his lift just as Alyea began his film sequence. The rifle in-situ photos are the still photos testified as true by Studebaker of the Dallas Crime Lab. Boone and Weitzman also agreed with the Studebaker photos.

Neither the Alyea film or the Crime Lab photos show the rifle hidden inside a pallet, or even leaning against a pallet.

Day had gently slid away a box helping to keep the rifle upright while supporting the rifle to allow it to tilt onto the floor. When Day felt competent enough that the rifle could be safely lifted, he began his lift just as Alyea began his film sequence. The rifle in-situ photos are the still photos testified as true by Studebaker of the Dallas Crime Lab. Boone and Weitzman also agreed with the Studebaker photos.

Yes of course.... Gravity was not working that day....   The scope made the rifle heavy on the left side, But the rifle couldn't topple to the left because of the stack of boxes so it toppled to the right....

The rifle in-situ photos are the still photos testified as true by Studebaker of the Dallas Crime Lab. Boone and Weitzman also agreed with the Studebaker photos.

All members of the thin blue lie....

[Walt Cakebread]

Sure, Weitzman's going to plant his face on the oily dirty floor and shine his breadbox-size searchlight into the opening of a pallet.

The pallet openings run east/west, so here's the only openings available to Weitzman:



Weitzman can't possibly see to where the rifle is depicted in the Crime Lab photos.



This photo shows the top of the cartons that were on Pallet "C" in the foreground (which photographer Studebaker was on) and the rifle in-situ to the north (top of the picture).

   "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

 Weitzman was in retail, so the term "on the floor" could mean the open area of a store.

    "Yes, sir; this is taken the opposite side the flat I was looking under."

    "Boone was looking the top side; I was looking under the flat. We
     were looking over everything. I was behind this section of books."

Notice Weitzman says "flat" and not "pallet". In others words, he was looking along the lower sides of the stacked cartons. Weitzman testified: "I said, 'There it is' and he [Boone] started hollering, 'We got it.' It was covered with boxes." That doesn't sound like a rifle hidden under the wooden boards of a pallet.

Look at the arrows in Weitzman Exhibits E and F:



Mr. BALL - Would you mind making a mark there with a pen?
     That is on F. Draw on Exhibit F, draw an arrow. The arrow
     in ink on F shows the location?
Mr. WEITZMAN - Down on the floor.
Mr. BALL - Shows the location of the gun on the floor?
Mr. WEITZMAN - Yes.

Mr. BALL - Take E here and make a mark on E as to the
     location of the place where the gun was found.
Mr. WEITZMAN - Same area.
Mr. BALL - The same area and the arrow marks the place
     where the gun was found?
Mr. WEITZMAN - Yes, sir.

The arrow points away from the pallets and Weitzman again says it was on the floor, not beneath a pallet.

What about Eugene Boone? He testified the rifle was "stuffed down between two rows of boxes with another box or so pulled over the top of it. And I hollered that the rifle was here." Shown one of the Studebaker in-situ photos, Boones testified:

Mr. BALL - This shows the rifle as you saw it, does it?
Mr. BOONE - That is right. Then you could kneel down over
    here and see that it had a scope, a telescopic sight on it,
    by looking down underneath the boxes.

Boone doesn't say the rifle was hidden in a pallet, visible through one of the end openings. Here's where Boone located the rifle and it is away from the pallets.

Weitzman exhibit E  provides a better perspective for verifying that Weitzman couldn't have seen the rifle as it is depicted in the official DPD in situ photo.



In the official DPD photo the rifle is shown standing on it's magazine, and it is one row of boxes north of the pallet.  Those boxes are sitting on the floor and they would have blocked Weitzman's line of sight to the rifle if it had been sitting as depicted in the official DPD photo.

[Bill Chapman]

Bil Chapman

[Zeon Mason]

So is it reasonably  to conclude that it was NOT probable that Weitzman could have seen even a portion of the rifle while looking under the flat (pallet)?

If so then Weitzman is exaggerating similar to Roger Craig or Weitzman saw the rifle originally in a different place than where Boone claims to have first seen it.

Seems to be a choice as to whom
Is the more credible witness, Weitzman or Boone?

Since Weitzman seems to have had some problem with depression later in his life, should this be considered as a sign he saw the rifle moved and remained silent about it? Or is it because he had exaggerated about actually seeing the rifle at the DAME time as Boone did?

This is just one example why  I’m still having trouble deciding what is true and what is not after 20 years of following the discussions about the JFK assassination.

[Walt Cakebread]

So is it reasonably  to conclude that it was NOT probable that Weitzman could have seen even a portion of the rifle while looking under the flat (pallet)?

If so then Weitzman is exaggerating similar to Roger Craig or Weitzman saw the rifle originally in a different place than where Boone claims to have first seen it.

Seems to be a choice as to whom
Is the more credible witness, Weitzman or Boone?

Since Weitzman seems to have had some problem with depression later in his life, should this be considered as a sign he saw the rifle moved and remained silent about it? Or is it because he had exaggerated about actually seeing the rifle at the DAME time as Boone did?

This is just one example why  I’m still having trouble deciding what is true and what is not after 20 years of following the discussions about the JFK assassination.

So is it reasonably  to conclude that it was NOT probable that Weitzman could have seen even a portion of the rifle while looking under the flat (pallet)?

No.....You are confused Zeon.     Weitzman DID see the rifle beneath the pallet.... BUT, if the rifle had been standing on it's magazine as it is depicted in the official DPD in situ photo then he could not have seen the rifle while he was down on the floor and shining his flashlight beneath the pallet.  He could not have seen the rifle as it is depicted in the DPD in situ photo because there was at least one box that was sitting in the floor and that box blocked his line of sight  to the place where the rifle is depicted in the official DPD photo.

I hope that explanation clears it up for you.....

Weitzman seems to have had some problem with depression later in his life, should this be considered as a sign he saw the rifle moved and remained silent about it?

Very probable, Zeon.... Weitzman knew that Lee Oswald had been murdered while in the custody of the DPD...And he knew that the DPD had altered evidence, and created false evidence to make Lee appear to be guilty. Weitzman knew that the DPD was corrupt and the WC had twisted his story ..... That had to weigh heavy on his mind as he tried to live a normal life.  Roger Craig also had mental problems for the same reasons.

[Zeon Mason]

Walt, if you are correct, then Boone has to be considered as a suspect witness.

Is there verification of Boones 1:22 time stamp for the finding a rifle or is it entirely based on on Boone himself declaring  HIS watch read 1:22?

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, if you are correct, then Boone has to be considered as a suspect witness.

Is there verification of Boones 1:22 time stamp for the finding a rifle or is it entirely based on on Boone himself declaring  HIS watch read 1:22?

Boone was another one of the low ranking law officers ( like Weitzman and Craig) who was cajoled and muscled into going along with the Dallas Law enforcement hierarchy.  Boone, Weitzman, and Craig were victims of the conspirators.... 

When your paycheck ( and possibly your life ) hangs in the balance you are not inclined to argue with those in authority.

As the old adage says...When they've got you by the gonads....your heart and mind will rapidly follow......

P.S...... Howard Brennan was another victim of the corrupt law enforcement officials.... Brennan entered the case as an innocent spectator who simply wanted to be a good citizen and help the police catch the guilty culprits....   Little did he know that he would have been far better off to simply walk away.