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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #112 on: August 04, 2022, 01:13:23 AM »
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In other words Baker was just a dumbass cop and couldn't count floor entries.

A second-floor lunchroom encounter with Mr Oswald was invented, in part, to cover (up) a real encounter with a man (not Mr Oswald) whom Officer Baker caught walking away from the stairway on a higher floor.

That same man was seen running from the back of the building shortly afterwards

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #112 on: August 04, 2022, 01:13:23 AM »


Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #113 on: August 04, 2022, 02:01:40 AM »
Yes. There was an encounter with a different man by the rear stairway on a higher floor

I don't know for sure, Mr Collins. But I believe strongly he was out on the front steps when the assassination occurred


A different man than LHO who was supposedly carrying a rifle? And Truly identified him as an employee? So, Baker just let him go? That’s very difficult to swallow. It appears to me that you are extremely desperate to hang onto your belief.

By the way, how do you explain the sighting of LHO by Mrs. Reid?

She testified that she saw LHO walk in through the back door of her office. This door was only approximately 10’ from the door to the second floor lunchroom. And she saw him enter through that door only seconds after the reported encounter that both Truly and Baker testified about.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #114 on: August 04, 2022, 02:12:08 AM »

A different man than LHO who was supposedly carrying a rifle?

If he heard the two men coming up the stairs, he will have quickly divested himself of the rifle

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And Truly identified him as an employee?

Yes, NB!

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So, Baker just let him go? That’s very difficult to swallow.

Why? If he's lost the rifle, then it's not at all difficult to swallow. And it's what Officer Baker describes in his affidvait

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It appears to me that you are extremely desperate to hang onto your belief.

By the way, how do you explain the sighting of LHO by Mrs. Reid?

She testified that she saw LHO walk in through the back door of her office. This door was only approximately 10’ from the door to the second floor lunchroom. And she saw him enter through that door only seconds after the reported encounter that both Truly and Baker testified about.

Yes, the perfect story to back up the man she immediately answers to. Unfortunately, Ms Geneva Hine puts a dampener on the whole farce

Consider this, Mr Collins:

The three Depository people who talked about seeing Mr Oswald in the Depository after the shooting----------Mr Truly, Ms Reid & Mr Campbell----------just so happen to have been standing together watching the P. Parade just before this.

Out of all the Depository people it might have been, it's the members of this trio. What are the odds, hm?

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« Reply #114 on: August 04, 2022, 02:12:08 AM »


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #115 on: August 04, 2022, 03:10:15 AM »
A second-floor lunchroom encounter with Mr Oswald was invented, in part, to cover (up) a real encounter with a man (not Mr Oswald) whom Officer Baker caught walking away from the stairway on a higher floor...That same man was seen running from the back of the building shortly afterwards.

 Oswald--- reported mentioning in the interrogator's notes that he had a coke...Baker wrote that Oswald had a coke [then was apparently compelled to scratch this out] No one else mentions coke anywhere else.
Jarman testified that he went outside with his buds to watch the parade and then some 5 minutes before the parade came by...they decide to go back upstairs...walked all the way to the back of the building took the elevator up to the 5th floor and opened the SE windows and watched it from there [boy that was cutting it close :-\]
In Truly's typed affidavit...he coincidentally mentions the "elevator stuck on the 5th floor".
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Mr. BELIN. When you got to the fifth floor, as I understand it, the west elevator was not there, but when you started up from the first floor, you thought it was on the fifth floor.
Mr. TRULY. No. When I came down from the second floor---from the seventh floor with the officer, I thought I saw Jack Dougherty on the fifth floor, which he would have had plenty of time to move the elevator down and up and get some stock and come back.
Mr. BELIN. But when you got to the fifth floor that west elevator was not there?
Mr. TRULY. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Was it on any floor below the fifth floor?
Mr. TRULY. I didn't look.
Mr. BELIN. As you were climbing up the floors, you did not see it?
Mr. TRULY. No, sir.
 

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #116 on: August 04, 2022, 03:17:40 AM »
A different man than LHO who was supposedly carrying a rifle? And Truly identified him as an employee? So, Baker just let him go? That’s very difficult to swallow. It appears to me that you are extremely desperate to hang onto your belief.
There was a report that a guy wearing a brown suit coat/slacks was seen coming out the rear of the TSBD carrying a rifle and kept walking north. You must have seen this posted before now.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #116 on: August 04, 2022, 03:17:40 AM »


Online Charles Collins

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #117 on: August 04, 2022, 12:52:57 PM »
If he heard the two men coming up the stairs, he will have quickly divested himself of the rifle

Yes, NB!

Why? If he's lost the rifle, then it's not at all difficult to swallow. And it's what Officer Baker describes in his affidvait

Yes, the perfect story to back up the man she immediately answers to. Unfortunately, Ms Geneva Hine puts a dampener on the whole farce

Consider this, Mr Collins:

The three Depository people who talked about seeing Mr Oswald in the Depository after the shooting----------Mr Truly, Ms Reid & Mr Campbell----------just so happen to have been standing together watching the P. Parade just before this.

Out of all the Depository people it might have been, it's the members of this trio. What are the odds, hm?


Please explain how it is that you believe Geneva Hine “puts a dampener” on this.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #118 on: August 04, 2022, 01:12:13 PM »
There was a report that a guy wearing a brown suit coat/slacks was seen coming out the rear of the TSBD carrying a rifle and kept walking north. You must have seen this posted before now.


I do have a vague memory of someone claiming to have seen something like that from up high in a building at quite a distance. But don’t remember any details. I also seem to remember a report by an employee who worked at the other TSBD warehouse who walked south on Houston Street towards Elm Street. This person (if I remember correctly) said that no one came out of the back door and walking north. Sorry, but I don’t have the names or other specifics handy. But since this is your pet theory, I imagine that you have seen this discussed before now.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #119 on: August 04, 2022, 01:13:50 PM »

Please explain how it is that you believe Geneva Hine “puts a dampener” on this.

Read her testimony, Mr Collins!  Thumb1:

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #119 on: August 04, 2022, 01:13:50 PM »