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Online Richard Smith

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #536 on: August 26, 2022, 02:10:14 PM »
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Boone was another one of the low ranking law officers ( like Weitzman and Craig) who was cajoled and muscled into going along with the Dallas Law enforcement hierarchy.  Boone, Weitzman, and Craig were victims of the conspirators.... 

When your paycheck ( and possibly your life ) hangs in the balance you are not inclined to argue with those in authority.

As the old adage says...When they've got you by the gonads....your heart and mind will rapidly follow......

P.S...... Howard Brennan was another victim of the corrupt law enforcement officials.... Brennan entered the case as an innocent spectator who simply wanted to be a good citizen and help the police catch the guilty culprits....   Little did he know that he would have been far better off to simply walk away.

The plot grows bigger and bigger.  If this was a plot to frame Oswald, why hide the rifle at all?  Why not just drop it by the window in plain sight?  Why stage a fake discovery of the rifle hidden under some boxes etc?  Like the 'bus rider" to nowhere that seems completely pointless and even counterproductive as part of a conspiracy plan.  Presumably they want the rifle found and the sooner the better but they engage in this charade.  Amazing.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #537 on: August 26, 2022, 05:37:29 PM »
The plot grows bigger and bigger.  If this was a plot to frame Oswald, why hide the rifle at all?  Why not just drop it by the window in plain sight?  Why stage a fake discovery of the rifle hidden under some boxes etc?  Like the 'bus rider" to nowhere that seems completely pointless and even counterproductive as part of a conspiracy plan.  Presumably they want the rifle found and the sooner the better but they engage in this charade.  Amazing.

It's very clear that this case is waaaaaaay beyond your limited ability to comprehend and understand.

There was two plays being played out....Lee was playing the role that he'd played at Walker's.   He was involved in making it appear that he had shot at JFK but missed and was fleeing to Cuba seeking asylum.

The rifle was hidden to allow him time to get out of the country.   He thought that the cops wouldn't get too excited about someone shooting at JFK ( He knew that JFK was not liked by many at the DPD) and probably wouldn't find the rifle for days.  THAT'S the reason the rifle was hidden....

Lee didn't know that he'd been double crossed and set up as the patsy by the killers.   There were no shots fired from the TSBD that day....  I know that you think the shells and the rifle constitute proof that Lee Oswald shot and killed JFK from that sixth floor window, but if you extract your head you'd realize that the spent shells and rifle were nothing but stage props.

P.S. If you could extract your head and see that Lee Oswald was in the 1st floor lunchroom at 12:27 when Jarman and Norman walked by the room then MAYBE you'd start to see the light.
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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #538 on: August 27, 2022, 12:33:35 AM »
It's very clear that this case is waaaaaaay beyond your limited ability to comprehend and understand.

There was two plays being played out....Lee was playing the role that he'd played at Walker's.   He was involved in making it appear that he had shot at JFK but missed and was fleeing to Cuba seeking asylum.

The rifle was hidden to allow him time to get out of the country.   He thought that the cops wouldn't get too excited about someone shooting at JFK ( He knew that JFK was not liked by many at the DPD) and probably wouldn't find the rifle for days.  THAT'S the reason the rifle was hidden....

Lee didn't know that he'd been double crossed and set up as the patsy by the killers.   There were no shots fired from the TSBD that day....  I know that you think the shells and the rifle constitute proof that Lee Oswald shot and killed JFK from that sixth floor window, but if you extract your head you'd realize that the spent shells and rifle were nothing but stage props.

P.S. If you could extract your head and see that Lee Oswald was in the 1st floor lunchroom at 12:27 when Jarman and Norman walked by the room then MAYBE you'd start to see the light.

HA HA HA.  An instant classic.  Where even to start?   Lee was playing the role of the assassin by hanging out in the lunchroom according to you?  Where he could easily have been seen instead of just staying on the 6th floor.  Wow.  And if someone was double crossing him to frame him for the crime and wanted him to get caught, then again, WHY HIDE THE RIFLE?  You have provided an explanation (albeit completely idiotic) as to why they would hide the rifle to buy him some time, but they actually want him to get caught in your double cross fantasy.   No shots fired?  What were they hearing on the 5th floor?  Why stage a shooting scene on the 6th floor but assassinate JFK from some other location with a different rifle necessitating access to the body and evidence? 
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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #539 on: August 27, 2022, 02:50:28 AM »
HA HA HA.  An instant classic.  Where even to start?   Lee was playing the role of the assassin by hanging out in the lunchroom according to you?  Where he could easily have been seen instead of just staying on the 6th floor.  Wow.  And if someone was double crossing him to frame him for the crime and wanted him to get caught, then again, WHY HIDE THE RIFLE?  You have provided an explanation (albeit completely idiotic) as to why they would hide the rifle to buy him some time, but they actually want him to get caught in your double cross fantasy.   No shots fired?  What were they hearing on the 5th floor?  Why stage a shooting scene on the 6th floor but assassinate JFK from some other location with a different rifle necessitating access to the body and evidence?

As I told you...This case is waaaaaay beyond your abilities.....

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #540 on: August 27, 2022, 03:30:13 AM »
Well there WAS SOME rifle being stuck  out the 6th fioor SE corner window at the very least .

Because Bob Jackson and Malcolm Couch saw SOME rifle (or object resembling a rifle) stuck out the 6th floor SE window and observed it being “”slowly withdrawn”

And there is reason to believe that 3 shots were fired by that rifle per Harold Norman and Amos Euins WC testimony.

Therefore (imo ) the more objective conclusion is that although SOME rifle probably Was from the SE 6th story  corner window , it was NOT Likely to be the MC rifle that the Tom Aleya film recorded  being lifted by Lt. Day.

Reasons:

1. Harold Norman heard the 3 shots fired in approx 4 sec span per his own video recorded demonstration of the spacing.

2. A 2/3rd majority of ear witness heard the no.2 and no 3 shots too close together to have been plausibly fired by an MC rifle.

3. The absence of any statements made about gunpowder residue found in the barrel or the breech of the MC rifle.

4. No statements regarding gunpowder odor which should have been noticeable.

5. The misaligned scope due to the mount itself requiring shims under the mount = impossible for even a perfectly functional scope to have ever been zeroed using the elevation adjustment nibs.
 
6. The curiosity of the bolt handle being apparently up and the bolt not locked down.

7. Weitzman seeing a rifle while looking  eastward under a flat ie ( thru a pallet) which is not probable if the rifle were between the 2 rows  of boxes. If Weitzman is credible , then the rifle must have been moved from its original “well hidden” location to the boxes where it was photographed

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« Reply #541 on: August 27, 2022, 02:20:46 PM »
As I told you...This case is waaaaaay beyond your abilities.....

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #542 on: August 27, 2022, 03:57:05 PM »
Well there WAS SOME rifle being stuck  out the 6th fioor SE corner window at the very least .

Because Bob Jackson and Malcolm Couch saw SOME rifle (or object resembling a rifle) stuck out the 6th floor SE window and observed it being “”slowly withdrawn”

And there is reason to believe that 3 shots were fired by that rifle per Harold Norman and Amos Euins WC testimony.

Therefore (imo ) the more objective conclusion is that although SOME rifle probably Was from the SE 6th story  corner window , it was NOT Likely to be the MC rifle that the Tom Aleya film recorded  being lifted by Lt. Day.

Reasons:

1. Harold Norman heard the 3 shots fired in approx 4 sec span per his own video recorded demonstration of the spacing.

2. A 2/3rd majority of ear witness heard the no.2 and no 3 shots too close together to have been plausibly fired by an MC rifle.

3. The absence of any statements made about gunpowder residue found in the barrel or the breech of the MC rifle.

4. No statements regarding gunpowder odor which should have been noticeable.

5. The misaligned scope due to the mount itself requiring shims under the mount = impossible for even a perfectly functional scope to have ever been zeroed using the elevation adjustment nibs.
 
6. The curiosity of the bolt handle being apparently up and the bolt not locked down.

7. Weitzman seeing a rifle while looking  eastward under a flat ie ( thru a pallet) which is not probable if the rifle were between the 2 rows  of boxes. If Weitzman is credible , then the rifle must have been moved from its original “well hidden” location to the boxes where it was photographed

Wow!!.... You've really provided a plate full today Zeon .... But #7 is the one that has my attention.....

7. Weitzman seeing a rifle while looking  eastward under a flat ie ( thru a pallet) which is not probable if the rifle were between the 2 rows  of boxes. If Weitzman is credible , then the rifle must have been moved from its original “well hidden” location to the boxes where it was photographed.

Weitzman seeing a rifle while looking  eastward WEST under a flat ie ( thru a pallet) which is not probable possible if the rifle were between the 2 rows  of boxes

A)  Weitzman was looking toward the WEST.... (see Organ's post Weitzman "E"  looking west. )



 The camera angle is much steeper than Weitzman's face (which was on the floor) was when he looked beneath the pallet but Weitzman "E" provides a photo of the boxes and pallet where Weitzman saw the rifle LYING ON THE FLOOR.   

B)  which is not possible if the rifle were between the 2 rows  of boxes

 The box that is sitting on the floor to the north( right hand side in the photo) of the pallet would have been in Weitzman's line of sight to a rifle that was jammed between boxes of books in the DPD photo ....  The official DPD in situ photo shows the carcano standing on it's magazine and sandwiched between cardboard boxes.   If the carcano had been there between the boxes  it would have been impossible for Weitzman to have seen it when he was down on the floor and shining his flashlight beneath the pallet.


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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #543 on: August 27, 2022, 04:26:17 PM »
it would have been impossible for Weitzman to have seen it when he was down on the floor and shining his flashlight beneath the pallet.

This is not worthy of debate or serious consideration.

Weitzman looking (get this, with one of those large flashlights they were using) though the opening at the end of a pallet and seeing the Carcano jammed into the same opening that runs beneath the pallet? And same rifle was hidden to allow Oswald time to get out of the country?

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« Reply #543 on: August 27, 2022, 04:26:17 PM »