The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman

[James Hackerott]

By my very rough calculations, the caboose of the long freight train, which can be seen in the two images I scanned from “Pictures of the Pain” and posted earlier in this thread, is approximately 258’ north of J.C. White’s assigned position.

If that train was traveling north at just 6-mph (quite slowly), and the McIntire photo was taken about 30-seconds after Jerry’s estimated first shot at Z160, then the back portion of the train would have been between J.C. White’s assigned position and the limo at the time of the first shot.

A Japanese bullet train?      

Not necessary!   


Edit: The two McIntire photos were taken a few seconds apart. And the train appears to be in the same position. Therefore, unless it had just come to a stop, this theory doesn’t appear to work. My bad…

I wonder if the backlit pergola with the sun struck East shelter showing is a possibility for consideration. Forgive the “floating” train cars (RGB in my sim) and other items in the rail yard as I’ve little if any topographical data for the area west of the TUP. My spoof the of "Old Charter" sign was a quick fix for not having a good texture map for the real sign.

[Richard Smith]

What does that mean? The Warren-ites are the ones going to all lengths here. One guy has a hypothetical train going southbound...another has it going northbound and based on the photographic evidence...I have it going not bound in any direction. Evidence [for the eleventy-seventh time]? That ......Oswald was----1. angry---2. a nut----3. had a gun.
And don't embarrass yourself by stating that the evidence is...he was the assassin.

Do you think a train ran over JFK?  The obsession about the train is bizarre.  It has no apparent relevance to this case. 

[John Iacoletti]

Many of these conspiracists or, if they prefer, WC "critics" know the evidence against Oswald. They just think it's all manufactured or faked. Backyard photos, Mexico City trip.... you name it, they'll figure out a way to dismiss it.

 

Most of the “evidence” is nonsense rhetoric like “why did he leave work so quickly?”

Even if it’s authentic, it doesn’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Oswald did it. The fact that it’s all so tainted and has no demonstrable provenance just adds to that.

[Charles Collins]

I wonder if the backlit pergola with the sun struck East shelter showing is a possibility for consideration. Forgive the “floating” train cars (RGB in my sim) and other items in the rail yard as I’ve little if any topographical data for the area west of the TUP. My spoof the of "Old Charter" sign was a quick fix for not having a good texture map for the real sign.

That’s an interesting point James. I am guessing that you are referring to the absence of anyone running away from that area with a rifle.

Since you appear to be interested, do you have the capability to simulate how much of Elm Street can be seen from the position that J.C. White was assigned to (the west side of the TUP, above the north curb of Main Street)? I am guessing that the limo would disappear from his view as it traveled down the slope towards the TUP. But I think that it would be interesting to see at approximately what point (Z-frame number) it disappears from his view due to the structure of the TUP itself.

[Walt Cakebread]

That’s an interesting point James. I am guessing that you are referring to the absence of anyone running away from that area with a rifle.

Since you appear to be interested, do you have the capability to simulate how much of Elm Street can be seen from the position that J.C. White was assigned to (the west side of the TUP, above the north curb of Main Street)? I am guessing that the limo would disappear from his view as it traveled down the slope towards the TUP. But I think that it would be interesting to see at approximately what point (Z-frame number) it disappears from his view due to the structure of the TUP itself.

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[Jerry Freeman]

Many of these conspiracists or, if they prefer, WC "critics", certainly know the evidence against Oswald (it's almost as if it's their entire life). They just think it's all manufactured or faked. Backyard photos, Mexico City trip.... you name it, they'll figure out a way to dismiss it.

Huh?

In fact, they believe there's more credible and authentic evidence that Ruth Paine was involved then there's credible/authentic evidence that Oswald was. The Oswald defenders get upset when Oswald is the target but not so much, indeed not at all, when it's Ruth or someone else.

Before you lift your skirt up any higher...realize that you have blown way off topic here. Your [apparent] position was understood long ago.

Do you think a train ran over JFK?  The obsession about the train is bizarre.  It has no apparent relevance to this case. 

If you don't like the topic...why do you keep returning to it?

[James Hackerott]

That’s an interesting point James. I am guessing that you are referring to the absence of anyone running away from that area with a rifle.

Since you appear to be interested, do you have the capability to simulate how much of Elm Street can be seen from the position that J.C. White was assigned to (the west side of the TUP, above the north curb of Main Street)? I am guessing that the limo would disappear from his view as it traveled down the slope towards the TUP. But I think that it would be interesting to see at approximately what point (Z-frame number) it disappears from his view due to the structure of the TUP itself.

The pergola and shelter show in the area between the sign and TSBD and give an alternative identification of a caboose, imo.

Here is a quick animation from J.C. Foster’s Whites location on the TUP over the south curb of Main at the west banister. I used an eye-height of 72 inches. The timing begins about when Tina Towner begins her film at the turn and ends near Z313. Even without spectator’s blocking the view Foster’s White's view of the motorcade wasn’t great.


   
 

[Richard Smith]

If you don't like the topic...why do you keep returning to it?

I thought you might be trying to convey some point.  My mistake.