Foster was behind Holland -- standing on a railways cabinet.
The cabinet was similar to this cabinet -- but closer to the camera here -- ie out of frame.
Mr. HOLLAND - Well, as well as I remember, one police officer was standing right behind me, or pretty close behind me.
Mr. STERN - Put a "2" where you believe he was standing.
Mr. HOLLAND - He was standing in close enough so that he could see, but he could also see the people, and
the other policeman, I think, unless he left immediately before this happened--see, when they turned there, I didn't turn around and look back any more, but the last time I saw this policeman he was standing over here on this side, about [indicating].
Mr. STERN - Standing almost directly behind you?
Mr. HOLLAND - Yes.
Mr. STERN - But, on the other side of the overpass, facing west?
Mr. HOLLAND - Yes; all this way, across the tracks. See, these are all railroad tracks, and he was standing over here on this side immediately before this motorcade turned this. Now, after they turned, I don't know, but--because I was watching them.
Mr. STERN - Yes. Would you put a "3" where you believe he was standing and can you indicate on there where you believe the other 12 to 15 or 16 people were who were on the Overpass at this time.